Ya, I figured from all I have read, he's in the brown bag now with the pinkie, I'm gonna leave him over night, I just hope he does on his own, after my friend gets back ill get some sheds from his anoles he rises and try the scenting, if that don't take, then I'll assist, don't want to do that but I'm NOT gonna loss this guy if I can help it! I've researched that sometimes after an assist they start up well on their own, hope that's right! I don't regret trying to save him from where I got him but I'm never doing that again, all future corns will be from a good breeder!!