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Re: I'm so bummed... *graphic pics
sorry to hear about your clutch. sometimes it's a compatible issue between the 2 snakes like angllady2 said. it happens, and this is what most would call a weak clutch. happen to me when I first started breeding and I was trying to figure it out just like you. so it's very possible that it wasn't nothing you did or an incubator problem, just a weak clutch. this is the bad part of breeding. it sucks when it happens, hope you have better luck on the next clutch, don
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I'm so bummed... *graphic pics
*update* the BEL is out of its egg. Still waiting on the little mojave. This little thing is the smallest hatchling I've ever seen. It's belly and heart seem swollen. Got a quick pic but didn't want to mess with them too much. I'll try to weigh them if they are doing ok tomorrow. I still have hope for these poor little ones 
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That's so sad. Are you sure there wasn't a temp spike? Or humidity problems at all? Did you check temps with a good thermometer or just take the thermostat's word for it?
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I'm so bummed... *graphic pics
I have a herpstat and a small digital thermometer. They are both within a degree of each other.
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Fingers crossed for your little survivors!
-Devon
0.1 Axanthic Bee (Pixel)
0.2 Axanthic Pastel (Cornelia, Short Round)
0.1 Axanthic (Bubbles)
0.1 Bee het Axanthic (Nipper)
0.1 Lesser (Lydia)
0.1 het Lavender (Poppy)
0.1 het Hypo (Cookie)
1.0 Killerbee het Axanthic (Yellow Dude)
1.0 Pied (Starry Starry Dude)
1.0 Butter Hypo (Spooky Dude)
1.0 PH Lavender (Little Dude)
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Re: I'm so bummed... *graphic pics
 Originally Posted by cschneider
I have a herpstat and a small digital thermometer. They are both within a degree of each other.
All Herpstats are slightly off and need to be properly dialed in with a reliable secondary/tertiary source. What digital thermometer are you using? The first thing I do when receiving a herpstat is tune it properly with THESE and one of THESE. I have received some stats that were off by 3+ degrees, which is a big concern especially for incubation temps.
Sorry for your loss and best of luck.
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Re: I'm so bummed... *graphic pics
 Originally Posted by don15681
sorry to hear about your clutch. sometimes it's a compatible issue between the 2 snakes like angllady2 said. it happens, and this is what most would call a weak clutch. happen to me when I first started breeding and I was trying to figure it out just like you. so it's very possible that it wasn't nothing you did or an incubator problem, just a weak clutch. this is the bad part of breeding. it sucks when it happens, hope you have better luck on the next clutch, don
I agree with Don. My first clutch this year was a disaster (lost the whole clutch) and had a similar clutch last year (different pairing). Other clutches in the same incubator laid around the same time are hatching out with no problems so I don't think it was a temp spike or humidity issue but more of a compatability issues with the parents. Maybe something happened between ovulation and the time she laid who knows.
Sorry to hear about your clutch...try to hang in there. It really is a great hobby and the good times will out weigh the bad.
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I'm so bummed... *graphic pics
I actually have the same thermometer. I've never heard of herpstat a being inaccurate. I will definitely check that out.
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Re: I'm so bummed... *graphic pics
Been there on my first clutch,loss 2 Lavender Albinos. 2nd and 3rd clutches put the smile back on my face. Hopefully 5,6,7,and 8 will do the same.
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Really sorry about the losses. Grats on the BEL and I hope it and its sibling do well for you.
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