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    Re: Calico's - Any lethal combos to stay away from?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSnakeGeek View Post
    don't get mad. lol if i'm wrong and you're attending daytona i'll gladly buy you a beer. it's not complicated when it comes to what i'm trying to say in regards to allele inheritance. i've never heard of proteins or modifiers restricting an allele from being inherited. do you have any studies or links to theories about this? and even if so, why would you cling to that and be so against the homozygous form being lethal? why would you think that would be more probable than a lethal homozygous, which we've actually seen with other genes? i'm not trying to be rude. i tried to agree to disagree earlier, but when you kept pressing and asking me questions, i answered. i'm not the only one with these views. people with much more knowledge than i will ever have share the same opinions.

    again, i can agree to disagree. can you?
    I wasn't mad it's all good.
    I can definitely agree to disagree.

    A couple things I found.
    First was eye color in humans and how if 2 people with blue eyes have a baby on occasion they will have a baby with brown eyes. This is because there is other genetic material and genes involved.

    Also the whole Banana/Coral Glow sex determination and how/why it works the way it does is more than enough proof that we don't really know much about the genetics of these animals besides the phenotypes that we are playing with.

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    Calico's - Any lethal combos to stay away from?

    Quote Originally Posted by C&H Exotic Morphs View Post
    I wasn't mad it's all good.
    I can definitely agree to disagree.

    A couple things I found.
    First was eye color in humans and how if 2 people with blue eyes have a baby on occasion they will have a baby with brown eyes. This is because there is other genetic material and genes involved.

    Also the whole Banana/Coral Glow sex determination and how/why it works the way it does is more than enough proof that we don't really know much about the genetics of these animals besides the phenotypes that we are playing with.
    i didn't know that with people and their eye color, which is pretty interesting. the banana sex ratios are very weird, because it still isn't a true "sex linked" mutation since we can sometimes get the other sex to pop up in the banana offspring. we can still get supers though. the human eye thing, no clue, but it sounds like something very interesting to read up on. the whole super spider, pin, calico, or whatever debate has been beatin to death so many times before. different strokes for different folks i guess.

    to clear one thing up for sure though, i had messaged brian on facebook a few days back when our discussion was getting heated. didn't expect him to message me back, but i was curious. he just messaged me back this morning. straight from the horses mouth:

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    Brian could've meant no phenotype super or he could've answered the question you were looking for about genotype but we don't know. This is why we need to use heterozygous and homozygous when talking about this stuff.
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    Re: Calico's - Any lethal combos to stay away from?

    Quote Originally Posted by OctagonGecko729 View Post
    Brian could've meant no phenotype super or he could've answered the question you were looking for about genotype but we don't know. This is why we need to use heterozygous and homozygous when talking about this stuff.
    true, but i think if that would've been the case he would have elaborated a little more. people almost always refer to a "super" in ball breeding as an animal that doesn't throw any normals, and the fact "super" was quoted leads me to believe even more he knew what i was talking about, but i have made a fool out of myself for assuming before. lol i may shoot him another message to clear it up further even though i know he's a very busy guy, but the lack of elaboration on his end meets my satisfaction.

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