eh.. how many times have you heard the same with yellowbellies and argued against it? lol like i've said a hundred times, the supers and combos are where it's at! nothing comes close to some of the super OD combos when it comes to crisp contrast and bright colors. even if it does look "normal," so do het ultramels, and i would love to have one of those in my rack simply because of what it is capable of producing. i'll be using the OD as kind of "visual het" with the goal of hitting supers. much like a recessive project, except with these, the "hets" will add more to the offspring's appearances than traditional simple recessives.