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Re: Banana/Coral Glow
See,
This is becoming a problem for me - especially in the U.K.
There are a few people selling male bananas - but not a single one of them is stating if it is a female maker or a male maker.
And they are not selling them cheaply either. I have been assuming they were first gen female makers.
Do you assume they are trying to put one over on people who have not looked into it? Or do you say caveat emptor?
To be fair I have never contacted them and flat out asked which the snakes were.
Has anyone speculated about the males produced by a female created with a male maker?
Am I totally misunderstanding how this could go in the next few generations?
"These questions—and many others—will be answered in the next episode of...Soap" ( for the old timers )
Derek
7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.
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Re: Banana/Coral Glow
 Originally Posted by TheSnakeGeek
what do you expect with a codom morph that has males producing mostly males?
Yep, simple supply and demand. People buy one male and breed it to 8 to 10 females. Producing 10 to 20 more bananas, so supply is growing incredibly quickly.
From a demand side, all the breeder needs is one male banana, so once they get that, they are no longer in the market for another one. So demand decreases as more people get theirs and then are no longer in the market.
$2000-$2500 next year
$800 - $1000 in 2015
Family:
0.1 Wife
3.1 Kids
Balls:
1.0 Lesser Pied, 1.0 VPI Snow, 1.0 Super Pastel Mojave, 1.1 Albino het VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 1.0 Albino Black Pastel, 2.2 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/Pied, 1.1 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/G-Stripe, 0.1 Pastel BEL(Mojave/Lesser), 0.1 Sterling Mojave, 0.2 Pied, 0.2 Kingpin het Pied, 0.1 Cinnamon Lesser het Pied, 0.2 Clown, 0.1 Citrus Pewter Calico, 0.1 Pastel Mystic, 0.1 Mystic, 0.2 Cinnapin, 0.1 VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 0.1 G-Stripe het Albino, 0.1 G-Stripe, 0.1 Pewter, 0.1 Lesser, 0.2 Spider ph Pied, 0.1 Spotnose ph Pied, 0.1 Spinner, 0.1 Black Pastel, 0.1 Normal
Other:
1.0 Husky
0.1 Husky/Lab
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Banana/Coral Glow
omg the sky is falling! the sky is falling! 10 years from now when the next new investment-worthy inc-dom morph is falling below the $5,000 mark, people will be crying about it and having the exact same discussion we're having now. but life goes on and the hobby is still as alive as ever. (if not more so) there have been so many of these banana crash threads. it wont change anything. play with the cards you're dealt and enjoy the game. if you don't like it, fold your hand and cash out.
Last edited by TheSnakeGeek; 07-19-2013 at 09:44 PM.
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Re: Banana/Coral Glow
 Originally Posted by coreydelong
There are many working with triple gene Banana morphs already that will keep the Banana prices at a relatively stable level. Super Bananas are just around the corner in numbers and will keep the Banana market at more stable levels. People will be vying for the right Banana combinations to make 1.0 Super Bananas.
Do any other genes make the banana really look better though? I'm not saying there aren't I just haven't seen many must have combos, which I think will hurt their value long term. Kinda like it has to the champagne.
Family:
0.1 Wife
3.1 Kids
Balls:
1.0 Lesser Pied, 1.0 VPI Snow, 1.0 Super Pastel Mojave, 1.1 Albino het VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 1.0 Albino Black Pastel, 2.2 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/Pied, 1.1 Triple het VPI Axanthic/Albino/G-Stripe, 0.1 Pastel BEL(Mojave/Lesser), 0.1 Sterling Mojave, 0.2 Pied, 0.2 Kingpin het Pied, 0.1 Cinnamon Lesser het Pied, 0.2 Clown, 0.1 Citrus Pewter Calico, 0.1 Pastel Mystic, 0.1 Mystic, 0.2 Cinnapin, 0.1 VPI Axanthic G-Stripe, 0.1 G-Stripe het Albino, 0.1 G-Stripe, 0.1 Pewter, 0.1 Lesser, 0.2 Spider ph Pied, 0.1 Spotnose ph Pied, 0.1 Spinner, 0.1 Black Pastel, 0.1 Normal
Other:
1.0 Husky
0.1 Husky/Lab
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Have you seen Mike's CG Fire Spider?
Banana Pin/Pastel/LemonBlast
Banana Enchi
Banana Mojave
Banana Butter
Banana Sugar/Calico
The list goes on. The surface is just being scratched. Pinstripes may only be $200, but they contribute to many high end morphs as the Banana will for years to come. Same with Enchis... just a few hundred dollars, but their double/triple gene morphs bring pretty good coin.
I have 5- 6 solid females to pair mine with. I think I will do just fine with a touch of luck from the odds gods.
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Banana/Coral Glow
 Originally Posted by coreydelong
I have 5- 6 solid females to pair mine with.
and people wonder why the prices on these morphs drop so fast..
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 Originally Posted by TessadasExotics
Talk to someone like Kevin and see what his thoughts are on the subject.
I did happen to talk to Kevin today by chance. Is he offering to sell you one for $4500.... great deal if he is.
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Re: Banana/Coral Glow
 Originally Posted by TheSnakeGeek
and people wonder why the prices on these morphs drop so fast..
So you would buy a high end male and pair it with one female?
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Dr. Del
The "male maker "or "female maker" is a very important tid bit and should be stated in sale threads IMO. It has an impact on the price of the animal for as long as its being sold for investment purposes. So far we are still learning about the gene but our male maker has thrown roughly 92% males. Every one of those males should produce the same percentage of males. Thats one of the questions I would ask when buying and I would prefer to buy from someone who has produced enough of them to be sure of what he/she is selling you. That being said I doubt many people are producing females and those who are are probably holding them back (at least I would). Similar to buying heterozygous animals, bananas should be bought from a reputable breeder if male/female maker is an important aspect to your investment.
As for market prices on the banana, Ill just say that a few people getting desperate does not set the market.
Cheers,
Jonas
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Banana/Coral Glow
 Originally Posted by coreydelong
So you would buy a high end male and pair it with one female?
x2 lol. I'm not a fan of bananas but if i got my hands on a GHI you can bet your butt he'd be seeing as many females as i could put him to lol! Not to make a ton of money, to make sexy combos!
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