Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
In my dumb down understanding, epigenetics and multiple loci basically? Wouldn't it be reasonable to think at some point, it could be selectively reduced to some extent? I mean I understand there are even factors outside of genetics that can even effect genetics, asplundii we have talked enough were I think you know what I understand. I see there is an accepted word of mouth that it is completely random because "many have tried." There seems to be very little data on what the many tired to do exactly. I mean I'm guilty of the just accept it, everyone says so. Now I am questioning it, is it really even correct to say It can't be reduced? Obviously the things effecting it could just be too complex and appear random, but what do we really have to go on to say random, end story?
Hey OWAL,

Not really epigenetics or multiple loci as those are specific interactions and this is more a matter of general interactions. Let me try explaining by an analogy;

You are standing on a third floor balcony with two water balloons, one is filled with red paint and one is filled with yellow paint, and you want to drop them to make mark on the pavement that is 1.5m long in the pattern 0.5m red/0.5m orange/0.5m yellow. What are the odds you can do that exactly perfect every single time? You cannot. You probably cannot even do it perfect once. Now ask yourself why. Maybe you mixed your paints slightly differently from one another... Maybe you filled the balloons with different volumes... Maybe the rubber in one balloon is slightly different than the rubber in the other causing it to pop differently... Maybe you dropped one balloon a half a second before the other... Maybe there was a gust of wind... Maybe a car drove by and hit the balloons... All these and more, factors you cannot control, are going to influence the final outcome. In the end you will still end up with a red/orange/yellow mark on the ground, but the odds are phenomenally against you that it will be the perfectly lined up one you wanted. And even if you did manage to get that mark once, making it a second time would be a feat.

It is the same with Spider and wobble. There are so many variables that the odds of hitting the perfect balance of them is closer to the none side of slim and none. And doing it repeatably is wholly improbable


Quote Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle View Post
If you like the spider pattern but worry about wobble(I don't) then try Womas. They are IMO the closest thing to a spider
Quote Originally Posted by Inarikins View Post
I was under the impression that Womas wobbled as well? Maybe I heard that somewhere or I just came up with it on my own...
Inarikins is correct, Womas also show wobble, though to a lesser degree than Spiders. But it is certainly there in the morph