ok.. so we candled ... lol... saw a couple moving inside... all had veins lol... we have one with a window on top... cant see much.... but one has a window underneath and we saw something move but NO PATTERN whatsoever... no dark... no nothing.........haha...so my son got excited and is hoping for at least one BEL....they were pretty quiet though... eggs are dimpling up a lot so it was hard to get the light in a GREAT spot... ...... today is day 50......... ugh.. not sure how much longer I can go...