Quote Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
I'm hardly talking about track lines on pied bellies. This shows me you clearly don't know what I'm talking about when I say Het Pied changes morph phenotype.(example, pewter Het Pieds)

And like I said before, there are good and bad examples of these 'Het' just like any other visual morph. A crappy yellowbelly or fire can look like a normal. A quality fire or YB looks nothing like a normal. Same thing here.

Yes, I've had a pretty good track record picking out hets from their regular siblings. The hets look different and know many who have proven out PH. Many breeders know which are actual hets from possible hets, but cannot label them as such due to the parental pair. If I hatched out 50% Hets, its unethical to label them 100% even if I knew they would prove out. I would however, let the buyer know.

Keep looking at examples, you'll develop an eye for them. Just like how people can pick out specters, specials, whatever from the normals.

Look for Mike41793's pied thread. Its the perfect read for you. With visual proof and examples for Het Clown and Pieds.

Keep an open mind. When a 'Het' has the ability to change phenotype visually, can you really call that recessive?

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Im sorry i got the wrong end of the stick..i think i know what your referring to - do pieds somehow look lighter the morph hets?? I believe i have read about what your referring to im just not that up the Pieds. Would i be right in saying that the patterned parts of the homo pied also display differences than the normal morph would??

I will search out Mikes thread. Thanks for the tip

My point was that it doesnt happen all the time, but your counter that bad fires and vanillas look just like normals is right!

Sorry if i frustrated u