What's your dream base hoard? And what is your dream snake to produce?

[DestinyLynette]

I'm curious to see what everyone's dream "starting breeders" are- super-duper quadruple gene morphs aside; I'm sure we'd ALL love those, but what would be your dream group of maybe two males and four to six females to start with, with one to two genes to start with?
Mine goes: bumblebee, spinner, axanthic pastel, lesser, pewter, super pastel, fire or enchi, and then albino or pied.

Oh, also: do lessers brown out with age as well, or no? Also, given the choice between an albino and pied, which would you choose- and are the whites of pieds random, or will medium pied x medium pied throw medium babes?

Dream snake to produce (not buy) would be a VPI-line axanthic killer bee... *so* beautiful.

[Chkadii]

Males- Lightening Pied and a mystic. (I have a super pastel already, does he still count?)

Females- Renick mojave, hypo black pastel, lithium, enchi.

I took a hit on the females to even out the males.

Edit: lessers brown out a tiny bit, but it isn't the browning epidemic that pastels are. And pieds throw offspring with random ratios of white.

[DestinyLynette]

Oh wow, lithiums are *beautiful*.
Does the same apply for butters as applies for lessers?

[Chkadii]

Oh wow, lithiums are *beautiful*.
Does the same apply for butters as applies for lessers?

Yes, butters and lessers are largely considered to be two lines of the same morph. Check out pictures of adult butters and lessers to see what they end up looking like. They don't go straight brown, their colors just get less vivid, varying by quality. With any morph, look for individual quality over breeders or lines.

Oh, and as far as pieds vs albinos, it's personal preference. I'd like to get into pieds first as an aesthetic choice because other morphs affect their color. With albinos, morphs mostly impact pattern alone- at least as far as I can tell. You could always shoot for an albino pied!

[Coopers Constrictors]

Edit: lessers brown out a tiny bit, but it isn't the browning epidemic that pastels are.

Not if you get a Citrus Pastel ... im talking a real Citrus/Whiteout... Those are intense, and stay intense. My 2 yr old 1600g+ female citrus whiteout still looks insane. The REAL ones from Amir never brown out

If I could start all over again... with today's market... I would probably get:

Banana girls
Ivory girls
Clown combo girls
Firefly stuff
Tons of Enchi stuff
OD combos

[HernandezHerps]

Males:
Super pastel puma
mystic potion

Females:
Black pastel
Yellow belly
BEL (phantom x Mojave)
Pastel pied

I would be set for life if I had those lol

[Slashmaster]

My dream is something I'm working toward -- quad hets. Het clown, het pied, het albino, het axanthic.
I already have a snow, and I have two pieds and two clowns unrelated, so soon as I can get a male pied clown I'll breed it to the female snow and make my quad hets. Then the REAL FUN begins...

I'm a big fan for random chance, so every egg would be super fun to wait for when you're dealing with quad hets.

And can you imagine a clown pied albino axanthic?

[LotusCorvus]

Haha, I like a lot of the basic morphs.

Dream starting group would have to be Spinner male (maybe a Queenspin if I wanna get all fancy), Clown male, Enchi, Lesser, Pastel, and Cinnamon females (preferably at least one being het clown).
I don't really have a dream goal with that set, but it would be really cool to see what all the combos would look like. Enchi Clowns are pretty stunning to me.

[4theSNAKElady]

Mine would be toffino, BEL, banana, lavender albino, bumblebee, albino pied, hypo clown, mimosa, snow, and pewter(already have)
I think thats a good mix to have.
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[Royal Hijinx]

I have a pretty decent base already. From that, the dream to produce will be a Super Enchi Desert Ghost.