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    Re: Breeding in an Apartment - Illegal??

    Thanks everyone for your responses. The person I was speaking to didn't realize that I don't plan to run a business out of my apartment, so zoning and licensing shouldn't be an issue. satomi, it's nice to know that at least somewhere in CA there are animal-friendly places. I only hope that's what I'm able to find. In my opinion, if they're listed as pet-friendly, then that should include all pets unconditionally. It would be miserable if I have to declare every animal I have and every new snake I get...

    We'll see what I'm able to find!! Thank you all!
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    Re: Breeding in an Apartment - Illegal??

    Quote Originally Posted by Zuma22 View Post
    Thanks everyone for your responses. The person I was speaking to didn't realize that I don't plan to run a business out of my apartment, so zoning and licensing shouldn't be an issue. satomi, it's nice to know that at least somewhere in CA there are animal-friendly places. I only hope that's what I'm able to find. In my opinion, if they're listed as pet-friendly, then that should include all pets unconditionally. It would be miserable if I have to declare every animal I have and every new snake I get...

    We'll see what I'm able to find!! Thank you all!
    It's because the world is full of morons and people fear snakes, why? They don't have enough sense to keep their minds open so they just automatically declare snakes trouble or evil or whatever the case may be.

    About a week or so ago somebody posted a picture on facebook of a snake they killed, and wanted to know what kind it was. People shouldn't even comment unless they know what they're talking about, but people went from saying copper head, cotton mouth, corn snake, king snake and it was a harmless water snake. Then some people said: The best kind of snake, a dead snake. Which I replied to their comments: I hope your dog bites your face off. That was a bit off topic, but it was a point to my general census that people don't understand snakes.

    Also it's not like a snake will chase you to bite you, but a dog can. Anyways, good luck with your search though.

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    Re: Breeding in an Apartment - Illegal??

    Quote Originally Posted by Annarose15 View Post
    I think the key here is to not ask "Do you allow snakes". Instead, ask for a copy of their pet policy. As Kodieh said, silence is consent (IMO). Be considerate of your neighbors (probably best that they not even know about hem), and you shouldn't have problems.
    This was basically what I was getting at - is it okay to just say nothing? (unless of course the lease specifically calls out snakes). I guess then my question is: if silence is consent and one day the landlord inspects my place or has to get in to fix a leak, etc. and sees a wall of snakes - does he have a case against me? I'm just so overly paranoid cause they're my babies

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    It's because the world is full of morons and people fear snakes, why? They don't have enough sense to keep their minds open so they just automatically declare snakes trouble or evil or whatever the case may be.

    About a week or so ago somebody posted a picture on facebook of a snake they killed, and wanted to know what kind it was. People shouldn't even comment unless they know what they're talking about, but people went from saying copper head, cotton mouth, corn snake, king snake and it was a harmless water snake. Then some people said: The best kind of snake, a dead snake. Which I replied to their comments: I hope your dog bites your face off. That was a bit off topic, but it was a point to my general census that people don't understand snakes.

    Also it's not like a snake will chase you to bite you, but a dog can. Anyways, good luck with your search though.
    And yes - I'll try not to get heated about this, but this is the ultimate issue. Ignorance. It makes me want to explode. I'm going to stop there before I do explode I've gotten a lot of people to face their fears with snakes and alligators and been able to get each of them to touch and even hold them and even though they're always scared - they're smiling. And so many people (myself included) think little hamsters and mice (and dogs, as you said!) are sooo cute - but I am FAR more afraid of getting bitten by a teeny little hamster than I am a snake - those suckers hurt!! Anyway, yes....ignorance is maddening.
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    Re: Breeding in an Apartment - Illegal??

    Quote Originally Posted by Zuma22 View Post
    This was basically what I was getting at - is it okay to just say nothing? (unless of course the lease specifically calls out snakes). I guess then my question is: if silence is consent and one day the landlord inspects my place or has to get in to fix a leak, etc. and sees a wall of snakes - does he have a case against me? I'm just so overly paranoid cause they're my babies



    And yes - I'll try not to get heated about this, but this is the ultimate issue. Ignorance. It makes me want to explode. I'm going to stop there before I do explode I've gotten a lot of people to face their fears with snakes and alligators and been able to get each of them to touch and even hold them and even though they're always scared - they're smiling. And so many people (myself included) think little hamsters and mice (and dogs, as you said!) are sooo cute - but I am FAR more afraid of getting bitten by a teeny little hamster than I am a snake - those suckers hurt!! Anyway, yes....ignorance is maddening.
    Yea, I've just gotten to the point to where I speak my mind, regardless of the consequences. I've just become tired of the ignorance in the world today, so I turned off that little filter between my brain and my mouth, and it's actually quite funny to see what I say, especially in real life.

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    Re: Breeding in an Apartment - Illegal??

    Im not in CA but I did stay in an apartment in Oklahoma previously and they allowed pets but you had to pay a $300 pet deposit per animal. And you couldn't have large dog breeds, bully breeds, or any protective/aggressive dog breed. Snakes were not allowed period no exceptions. But I did still keep snakes there. You will be addressed b4 they enter you apt for maintenance or utility checks. So just make sure you drape some sheets over your babies. They won't ask what is under them.. It looks stupid and tacky but don't ask, don't tell. They aren't going to ask you to show them what is under the sheet. You can even set a few little things on it so it looks like a tacky stand. I did this, never had an issue. Although I am sure they knew something was going on, they never asked. Or looked. Best of wishes.

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    Re: Breeding in an Apartment - Illegal??

    A. Get the pet policy beforehand, make sure it's included on the lease. Mine for example says "no dogs" is the only rule that pertains to pets.
    B. Ask them how they accept caged pets - if they say caged pets are fine- they are fine.
    C. Get a copy of your lease, make sure it includes the pet portion, if there is no stipulation preventing the ownership of the animals in the lease, you're in the clear.

    Now, if you sign a lease, and they then months later decide they don't like your pets, that's too damn bad. They legally can't evict you or tell you to get rid of your animals. Fight it in court, if it wasn't included in your lease you'll win every time.

    I own 2 monitors, 6 large constrictors, 2 cats, 2 rabbits, and a handful of small snakes. They are all allowed per my lease, if they don't like it, tough luck.

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