Bamboo!!!!

[4theSNAKElady]

I guess here they come, the african breeders

About time

Seriously, keeping BPs is easier over there, combine that with facilities that move tens of thousands of hatchlings. Gems, like the first pinstripe, used to get sold for large sums into the 1st world. Now i guess they breed them, prove them out, get their world first, and then sell later on.

Correct me if im wrong.... But the only data i got so far is that this breeder is located in Ghana. Highly interesting, who will be the first outside africa to work with this gene? Oh and be sure they have morphs to do the basic combos right away, i know there are breeders in africa that have the base morphs and breed them. Really, its the next logical step, why sell extraordinarily awesome dinkers when you can prove it out first and sell a brand new morph? So many morphs have "first produced" thousands of kilometers away from the natural range of ball pythons, its about time the people that share their surroundings with wild BPs tap into it. Ghana is surrounded by the natural range of BPs. Its logical.

well said! well said!

[SlitherinSisters]

Wow the bamboo is sweet, I can't believe that's not a designer morph!

[TessadasExotics]

Come to San Diego and I'll show you stuff exporters aren't breeding. Tons of morphs come in that are untouched and amazing.

Oh, and the market isn't crashing. Lavenders are 13 years old... There are plenty of fabulous investments that will make you money. Breeding 10 year old morphs isn't a money maker. I still breed them, to new stuff.

Take the bamboo for example. If you invested 10k into a male bamboo, would you make money on it? How can you say that someone can't make money on BPs when you can? Easily.

Brent,
How many people can drop 10k+ on a snake? I said anyone coming into breeding now. It is a known fact that recesives hold their value. Pretty sure dropping from 3-4k to just 800 in one year is fairly substantial. Plenty of big breeders know that truth of things. Lets see how fast some of these high end morphs drop in value. If im wrong it would be nice.

[majorleaguereptiles]

Brent,
How many people can drop 10k+ on a snake? I said anyone coming into breeding now. It is a known fact that recesives hold their value. Pretty sure dropping from 3-4k to just 800 in one year is fairly substantial. Plenty of big breeders know that truth of things. Lets see how fast some of these high end morphs drop in value. If im wrong it would be nice.

Again, using lavender albinos isn't a good example. There is actually great explanation and it has nothing to do with the market. The toffee/candy compatibility drove their prices down. Toffinos were now beautiful and sold cheaply. Toffinos are a more impressive animal than a lavender in my opinion, and in the opinions of many consumers. Let alone toffees/candys are even more impressive than the rest and are already seen in the 5-10k range. As the toffee/candy project saw prices fall due to toffinos, I believe lavenders have been hit the hardest.

Now, saying high end projects will depreciate... I'm guessing you're meaning the banana project. Males make males that make males that make males. There is nothing wrong with the market. It's simply the project is the strangest EVER for production, so it has depreciated rapidly and will continue to do so. However, that is NOT the direct result of our market. It's actually the exact opposite. I think the more affordable that project will be, the MORE money will continue to come into the industry.

Snakes are selling right now for $7500-$10000. I have numerous projects people want to invest in because they believe they will make more money on them.

Scaring the ball python market into thinking its crashing is absolutely false in my book. The more people that get out and sell animals for cheap, the better others will be able to profit from their losses. People always want to buy the next best morph. It's not going to change until the next best more ceases to exist and I don't seen that happening anytime soon.

So who wants a bamboo?

[PiercingPrincess]

My jaw actually dropped when i saw them... I'm willing to sell my soul to get my hands on one. So gorgeous.

[Solarsoldier001]

That bamboo has beautiful colors. I wonder if its compatible with the BEL complex? It has some resemblance to them.

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[MisterKyte]

Since no one has mentioned it yet, I do believe Crystal Palace Reptiles in the UK actually has a Bamboo of their own. They confirmed that it's an African import as well so I can only assume that they got it from Noah. Just based on those pictures, it looks like they don't age very nicely but that'll probably change with selective breeding. Either way, this was my favourite from WOBP's adventure in Ghana.

[Marrissa]

Still a really neat looking animal. It's just kinda disappointing how different it looks from the original pic. I really like how funky the pattern is and the white in there.

[iconpythons]

Since no one has mentioned it yet, I do believe Crystal Palace Reptiles in the UK actually has a Bamboo of their own. They confirmed that it's an African import as well so I can only assume that they got it from Noah. Just based on those pictures, it looks like they don't age very nicely but that'll probably change with selective breeding. Either way, this was my favourite from WOBP's adventure in Ghana.

There are breeders here in the States that have breeder males. I have seen one in person. In fact, my friend just had an ovulation from a bamboo sire. Looking forward to getting into the project asap. Make sure to keep an eye on www.bambooballpython.com I think that is where he is planning to list the ones not being sold privately.

[Pythonfriend]

There are breeders here in the States that have breeder males. I have seen one in person. In fact, my friend just had an ovulation from a bamboo sire. Looking forward to getting into the project asap. Make sure to keep an eye on www.bambooballpython.com I think that is where he is planning to list the ones not being sold privately.

the thread has been dormant for several months, things have changed a bit.

different breeders now have them for sale. the ones i stumbled across are a female super bamboo for sale by BHB reptiles for 30000 dollars, and M&S reptilien (ms-reptilien.de , from Germany) has a male bamboo spider (bambee) for sale for 16900 euros. and thats just what i noticed, without looking too hard. give it one more year, and since its a codominant, things will pick up rather quickly, more hatchlings will become available, and prices will start going down. Noah from Ghana also continues to breed them and is taking the gene into multi-gene combos.

patience, they will become available, give it 1 or 2 more years and most of the big breeders with big wallets will have them.