What Do You Think of This Super Pastel

[Solarsoldier001]

I'm thinking I should have set up a poll. Of course, I know it would be unanimous at this point; it would just save me the trouble of counting exactly how many people have said she is just a regular pastel and not a super.

Lol


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[Marissa@MKmorphs]

She still looks gorgeous. If that's what a regular pastel looks like, I guess I have found what I want: A regular pastel, not a super. How old is yours?

Thanks! This is a 2012 girl that definitely isn't your average pastel. Most of the pastels I see for sale are pretty much completely browned out, even as hatchlings.


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[BPGuy]

Thanks! This is a 2012 girl that definitely isn't your average pastel. Most of the pastels I see for sale are pretty much completely browned out, even as hatchlings.


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I wonder if yours has a twin sister (or brother) who is looking to be adopted.

[Bananii]

Damn that is a smoking super pastel! I love the black back, and how it's evenly blushed... Gorgeous!

[MarkS]

Looks like a super to me, a fairly average one but still a super.

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

I'm wondering just how many of the people posting replies here have actually worked with the pastel gene. Are you all just going on pictures you've seen? WOBP? Or your own pastel?

I'm asking because the snake in question could very well be a super by that breeders standards..

To the member saying most single gene pastels they see are much browner than that, you're seeing some pretty crappy pastels then.. It wasn't always like that you know.. Just a few years ago there were tons of great pastels. Careless breeding of sub-par examples, to dark normals, is the cause of that.

If this breeders other pastels from the same blood line are browned out, especially at such a young age, then this snake is probably a super. If he has low quality breeders, he will produce low quality babies.. When a great looking pastel hatches for him, and has all that blushing and yellow, it's probably a super. Do you understand what I'm talking about? If the parents are sub-par, that could be a sub-par super. If it is, I wouldn't buy it for breeding purposes. It would muck up everything it produces.

[valhalha30]

Where are you finding high quality firefly females for 150? I need to find that connection and buy them all...

Son-of-a.....
I just can't get anything written right!!!!!!!!!! All my errors are making me look clueless....

You are right, and I was thinking that a firefly should be about 500 to a grand...... but for WHATEVER reason, I wrote 150, twice.
I'm having bad luck with numbers lately.... sorry everyone.

[mike689]

I'm wondering just how many of the people posting replies here have actually worked with the pastel gene. Are you all just going on pictures you've seen? WOBP? Or your own pastel?

I'm asking because the snake in question could very well be a super by that breeders standards..

To the member saying most single gene pastels they see are much browner than that, you're seeing some pretty crappy pastels then.. It wasn't always like that you know.. Just a few years ago there were tons of great pastels. Careless breeding of sub-par examples, to dark normals, is the cause of that.

If this breeders other pastels from the same blood line are browned out, especially at such a young age, then this snake is probably a super. If he has low quality breeders, he will produce low quality babies.. When a great looking pastel hatches for him, and has all that blushing and yellow, it's probably a super. Do you understand what I'm talking about? If the parents are sub-par, that could be a sub-par super. If it is, I wouldn't buy it for breeding purposes. It would muck up everything it produces.

I'm confused. Are you saying that even though its most likely a single gene pastel, the breeder can still call it a super because he thinks it "looks" nicer then his other single gene pastels?

[Inknsteel]

I'm confused. Are you saying that even though its most likely a single gene pastel, the breeder can still call it a super because he thinks it "looks" nicer then his other single gene pastels?

I believe what she's saying is that the pastel gene has been bred out by a lot of people. Some people started with sub-par single gene pastels and bred them to dark normals or other sub-par quality genes. These sub-par parents will generally produce sub-par offspring. So, if the person who bred the snake in question is working with two sub-par single gene pastels, that the single gene pastel offspring would also likely be sub-par. If the breeder is producing sub-par pastels, it is likely that if they hit the super, it would also be of sub-par quality. So, it's possible that this is a super pastel created by two sub-par single gene pastels, which results in a sub-par super that others might mistake as a single gene pastel.

Clear as mud now?

Short version... It's possible that this is a low quality super produced by low quality pastels...

[mike689]

I believe what she's saying is that the pastel gene has been bred out by a lot of people. Some people started with sub-par single gene pastels and bred them to dark normals or other sub-par quality genes. These sub-par parents will generally produce sub-par offspring. So, if the person who bred the snake in question is working with two sub-par single gene pastels, that the single gene pastel offspring would also likely be sub-par. If the breeder is producing sub-par pastels, it is likely that if they hit the super, it would also be of sub-par quality. So, it's possible that this is a super pastel created by two sub-par single gene pastels, which results in a sub-par super that others might mistake as a single gene pastel.

Clear as mud now?

Short version... It's possible that this is a low quality super produced by low quality pastels...

Understood. But the super pastel should still have a little blushing even if it is super low quality, no?