lol guys, i understand, see i searched them in forum search and intually got great reviews. after going back and looking at other herp forums and this one aswell, well they seem to suck, time will tell when i get it, as said above herpstat 2(lets me control 2x dif temps, I belive, if i remmeber right) will be in future atm i know my ranco is acurite to the nth. acurite and heat gun tells me that. so i will use ranco on bps and if hydro works, i will use it on corn,till get cash for herpstat 2