What would you do, as a buyer, in this situation?

[sho220]

When dealing on the Internet, you need to act quickly. It's also not like the OP paid for the animal and no shipping has been discussed. Shipping was discussed, it had a set day to ship, and the seller backed off of it and offered a refund. Then backed off of that too.

It's shady, and she's done the right thing despite what your opinion of the situation is.

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What's just as shady is that the buyer immediately wanted a refund...that to me smells of buyers remorse...personally I think the buyer found something she wanted more, can't afford both, and saw this as a way of getting her funds back...

[sho220]

In fact! The date today is April 22nd, she paid the first of two payments on April 13th. That's 216 hours by the way I do math.
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Final payment was done yesterday, not on the 13th. Was he supposed to ship after only receiving partial payment?

[Kodieh]

I'm not quite sure you can read. The seller specifically offered the refund at the point when he "knew" he wouldn't be able to ship on the agreed point.

Please go read the first post, and subsequent posts. It'll help you understand the thread in its entirety.

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[xFenrir]

Final payment was done yesterday, not on the 13th. Was he supposed to ship after only receiving partial payment?

If I hypothetically wait until next week and do nothing, that could bring out the date of a potential refund beyond the 20 days that the original transaction occurred, factoring in allowance for shipping delays (let's say the snake was a DOA, or something.) I am wondering if I should just seek to reverse the transactions, if possible. I am really scared of losing my money on this. The seller had pretty good feedback on the BOI, but not much of it.

This is why she is worried... I'm not too in-the-know on PayPal, but it looks like it goes by the BEGINNING of the transaction, not the end of it. So by that logic, it has been 10 days since the original payment. Yes, the offer to refund happened less than 48 hours ago, but PayPal doesn't care about that because that's not on the TRANSACTION record. So, if she "waited to see what happens" and then contacted PayPal about a refund, they would probably say they can't do anything since it's beyond the timeframe for refunds stated in their ToS or wherever they have those rules.

Like I said, I see nothing wrong with her covering HER behind on it, especially when it's an online transaction. Buyers remorse or not, it's HER money and she can do what she wants with it.

[sho220]

I'm not quite sure you can read. The seller specifically offered the refund at the point when he "knew" he wouldn't be able to ship on the agreed point.

Please go read the first post, and subsequent posts. It'll help you understand the thread in its entirety.

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Turning a disagreement into a bunch of insults is not the best way to get your point across...

"I'm not quite sure you can read"...lol...burn...

[Kodieh]

That's why I'd be worried. He wants to ship a week from when the original day was. So, that's 8 days more, plus the 9 already based from the original transaction date (April 13th).

That's makes 17. What else might happen to cause another three day delay.

I can't be the only one seeing this.

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[ChaosAffect]

Turning a disagreement into a bunch of insults is not the best way to get your point across...

"I'm not quite sure you can read"...lol...burn...

you've pretty consistently attacked the op, claiming that she suffered from buyer's remorse and acted shady... seems like you started insulting first, bud.

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[Kodieh]

Turning a disagreement into a bunch of insults is not the best way to get your point across...

"I'm not quite sure you can read"...lol...burn...

Well, alright, you're deliberately overlooking details clearly outlined since the beginning of the thread.

I haven't said anything different, I just sugar coated it a bit.

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[sho220]

This is why she is worried... I'm not too in-the-know on PayPal, but it looks like it goes by the BEGINNING of the transaction, not the end of it. So by that logic, it has been 10 days since the original payment. Yes, the offer to refund happened less than 48 hours ago, but PayPal doesn't care about that because that's not on the TRANSACTION record. So, if she "waited to see what happens" and then contacted PayPal about a refund, they would probably say they can't do anything since it's beyond the timeframe for refunds stated in their ToS or wherever they have those rules.

Like I said, I see nothing wrong with her covering HER behind on it, especially when it's an online transaction. Buyers remorse or not, it's HER money and she can do what she wants with it.

While I agree with most of this, I can't back the bold part. That's just crappy imo...

[xFenrir]

Turning a disagreement into a bunch of insults is not the best way to get your point across...

"I'm not quite sure you can read"...lol...burn...

You're the one slamming the OP because you're assuming she has "buyers remorse". I think that's pretty insulting to just jump to conclusions like that like you're saying she's doing to the seller. How is it buyers remorse if the only reason she's getting her money back is because the SELLER offered her a refund? She never said anything about changing her mind on the animal on her own, and has apparently been following through with her payments. Two payments: one on 4/13, the other one a few days ago=she already paid for the snake; it WAS owned by her technically, she was waiting for it to be shipped. The seller indicated a problem and offered her TWO solutions: wait until next week to ship the snake to her, or get her refund. Just because she chose to get the refund means buyers remorse?


I know it sounds mean, but people return things all the time. When you're the buyer, you spend your money how you want. Maybe she got into a fenderbender and the money that would've been free to purchase a snake with will be better used for fixing her car? Nobody knows. Other peoples' money is their business, not mine.