I would recommend staying away from the breeders on the back wall, heard lots of bad things about them and there is negative feedback for them on the BOI. I have gone several times and the people there are great overall. Bob Futo is usually there, bought my male Suriname from him and he sells balls too, great guy. Happy huntingI will likely be there too with my daughter, her BP just passed away after an RI and we will be looking but not purchasing.