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    Breeders marking "het somthing" with no %

    So, you guys who been in the game for awhile.
    Is marking het (recessive here) most likely accepted as 100% of that gene?
    Ive seen some dudes who tack on the 100% that also list the 66, 50 or pos % but is that the usual when theres other percentages involved?

    When i bought mine it was only marked as het without a %
    i forgot to ask but i did email and i have yet recieved a response.

    I wouldnt post unless i couldnt find an answer so thanks for your time.
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    I mark mine with % or possible but most assume 100%

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    If someone marks something as a het it should be 100% heterozygous for whatever mutation it carries. the 66%ers or 50%ers are POSSIBLE hets and are not guaranteed to be heterogygous. But if something is simply marked 'het' it should be guaranteed to carry the trait.

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    Re: Breeders marking "het somthing" with no %

    i think its like this, at least i have never seen it done differently:


    het something = 100% het something. if there is no percentage, 100% is assumed.

    and then you have 66% possible het something or 50% possible het something. here its accepted to leave out the possible and to just say 66% het something. There always is supposed to be a percentage if its not a 100% guaranteed het.

    i often see breeders that sell a lot of BPs, but that only have 100% guaranteed hets and 50% possible hets, but no 66% hets. i guess its just easy to avoid producing them when you have enough breeders in a certain recessive project.

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    Re: Breeders marking "het somthing" with no %

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurtilein View Post
    i think its like this, at least i have never seen it done differently:


    het something = 100% het something. if there is no percentage, 100% is assumed.

    and then you have 66% possible het something or 50% possible het something. here its accepted to leave out the possible and to just say 66% het something. There always is supposed to be a percentage if its not a 100% guaranteed het.

    i often see breeders that sell a lot of BPs, but that only have 100% guaranteed hets and 50% possible hets, but no 66% hets. i guess its just easy to avoid producing them when you have enough breeders in a certain recessive project.
    Yeah, me too...thats why im asking dudes who do it.
    Thank you but i dont want opinions/thoughts.
    7/8 of that is white noise....i hear myself in my own head yelling in the same tone while reading this after the first sentence....well the second....I don't need schooling.
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    All we can offer is opinions. In this hobby, there is no one voice to rule them all. You may talk to a breeder tomorrow who grades his hets and poss's completely differently than anyone you've ever met, but it's what makes sense to him. He should be willing to explain his system, that's all anyone can ask. That's just a fact of life-- no one will ever see exactly eye to eye with everyone else. Everyone perceives differently.
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    Breeders marking "het somthing" with no %

    If I mark something as het. it is 100%.

    If I mark something as 66% or 50% it's pretty obvious what I mean lol.

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    Breeders marking "het somthing" with no %

    Quote Originally Posted by SquamishSerpents View Post
    If I mark something as het. it is 100%.

    If I mark something as 66% or 50% it's pretty obvious what I mean lol.
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    Re: Breeders marking "het somthing" with no %

    Quote Originally Posted by Archimedes View Post
    All we can offer is opinions. In this hobby, there is no one voice to rule them all. You may talk to a breeder tomorrow who grades his hets and poss's completely differently than anyone you've ever met, but it's what makes sense to him. He should be willing to explain his system, that's all anyone can ask. That's just a fact of life-- no one will ever see exactly eye to eye with everyone else. Everyone perceives differently.
    And that breeder would be wrong. This is a mathematical probability, it's not open to interpretation. That's like saying two plus two equals three because that's what makes sense to me...

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    Re: Breeders marking "het somthing" with no %

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    And that breeder would be wrong. This is a mathematical probability, it's not open to interpretation. That's like saying two plus two equals three because that's what makes sense to me...
    I'm not saying it should happen, I'm saying it may. Because people can be ridiculous and lie and try to hide things for the sake of the bottom line. Is it irresponsible? Yes. Is it unheard of? Absolutely not. Nothing is foolproof when it comes to words. Proving it out is an entirely different beast.
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