het clown?

[Mrhappytreats4u]

I know this has been asked before but I never seen anyone actually proof a actually answer...my question is in morphs lets say a lesser, is there a for sure way to tell a lesser is a het clown before you breed it....I know the for sure way is to breed it but I was just curious as I noticed het albino morphs look different than the regular morph...

[Mike41793]

Yea, if one of the parents was a clown.

[snakesRkewl]

That stuff is top secret

[Mrhappytreats4u]

I know you can tell if one of the parents are clown...that's obvious...I'm talking about if you don't know if they actually did breed a clown to it...if you read the question I asked is there a visual difference....like the het albino and some other hets do to change the color and slightly the pattern..but I do know some claim they can point out the hets in a possible het clutch 9 times out of 10..so there has to be something they see and is it with all clutches they see it or is it in thier clutches only as it could be limited to what they are breeding does it in their pairing only...

[snakesRkewl]

Your search feature is your best friend, it can answer your questions, your not the first to ask ...

[tikigator]

Yeah this question has been asked many many many many times. Pieds and clowns have some markers although they are NOT a guarantee. Albinos, ghosts, and other recessive genes do NOT have markers, although their offspring can look different. There is no real way to 100% guarantee a het by looking. Many normals have het pied markers and I have seen 100% proven het pieds have no track markers at all. So its just not a good tell all. But if you do a search you will find a thread with pictures showing that het clowns do have subtle markers, head stamp, flames, pattern, etc that you can often tell they are hets. But again, some normals have crazy head stamps, flames, etc as well.

I have 2 het clowns, aside from the head stamps both loo0k 100% as normal as can be.

[tikigator]

Here go!

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...wn+yellowbelly

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ight=het+clown

[don15681]

Yea, if one of the parents was a clown.

and that one parent being the female that's visual. with a male clown in the breeding, it's not 100%

[satomi325]

Het. Clowns *usually* look very different.
The clown gene usually brightens and cleans up some morph hets. And sometimes they have funky patterning. (larger eyes spots in the alien head or prominent dorsal markings)

My pastel het clown and her brother are the brightest pastels I've ever seen.

[tikigator]

and that one parent being the female that's visual. with a male clown in the breeding, it's not 100%

What???

If EITHER parent is visual all offspring are 100% hets.......