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First, blackhead spiders have already proven to pop out spiders. Maybe, spiders and blackheads are allelic? Hmm, you wouldn't know anything about that would you? I have 3 generations of spider blackhead information that really nobody would know about besides 2 people.

Second, the snake the OP posted REALLY has spider in it. I chimed in to hopefully educate some folks that just because it doesn't look like YOUR spider or the spider's you have seen, there are some people who have seen spiders like this. If you want to disagree with me, that's fine.

Lastly, to question someone's "integrity" in the mix is unappropriate. I guess I shouldn't come on here and try to share what I know. I didn't sell this snake, I just came on here to say it was a spider based on my experience. Which you obviously know nothing about.

OP, please post future breedings of this snake and it's results. Should be interesting. I've seen some spider het tristripes that look pretty brutal on the spider scale. Typically making them solid, thick, blackback animals, with no white.

I already know about the black heads doing crazy things to spiders. I'm unfamiliar with spider het tri stripe. I'm not doubting that.

Now. Op said spider x normal. Those are the 2 genes we are to work with when assessing this snake. With those criteria then its a normal.

How can you accurately say the snake REALLY has spider in it? Have you seen the snake in person? Did you do DNA analysis on it? It's next to impossible for you to say "YES 100% spider". The reason I can say its not is 2 fold. One, it doesn't look like a spider. Spiders are a COLOUR and PATTERN snake. Neither of which this snake has. The amount of white is random so it's not a good marker. Second. A snake that's genetics are questioned is a normal until proven otherwise. I have a "dinker" that I know the lineage of and I know it looks remarkably similar to a known morph (one you work with actually) but I can't say that it is that morph until I prove the genetics.

It seems like your knowledge of spider black heads and spider het tri stripe is more extensive than me. That's fine. I don't have those genes. If you are so certain that that snake is a spider black head or spider het tri stripe, I challenge you to purchase that snake off the OP for the price of those high end combos if you are so certain. I mean what have you got to loose.

On another note. If people keep buying low quality morphs and breeding the crap out of them, there will be some ugly combos in the future. When people say "rate my morph" I think we should say, "it's crap, don't breed it!" Nobody does that. We are all trying to be too nice. IF (biggest if ever) this snake is a spider, it is hands down the ugliest spider I have ever seen and should never be bred. Now that's my opinion and I'm sure people will disagree but hey, it's a free country.