if you take a gene (like pastel) into a recessive project, all line breeding efforts will be 75% annihilated! Thats the trouble with line-bred nice reduced gene XY, if its not genetic taking it into a recessive project will destroy it.

Nice single-gene pastels do turn ugly if you work with them like you would with any other gene, like, GHI or so. I mean, line-bred genes are nice as long as you line-breed them, but when you buy and breed them and then even combine them with other genes..... it all goes away, and what stays are the genes. Thats normal, pick the most beautiful pastels, combine them, and what you get is.... pastel, nothing more, because NOTHING that can be gained from line-breeding translates into combos.

so, you say a nice pastel turned into just pastel just by taking it into a recessive project? NO S°°°... I MEAN NO SOLITUDE SHERLOCK HOLMES. Its got 75% clown genetics and 25% of the original pastel genetics, at best, all line-breeding is gone, its in the 75% of hets and pastel hets and so on. Just not in this snake.

Now is it a clown pastel or a clown? Im not sure. But dont be surprised if it is JUST a clown pastel, without any fancyness bred into the pastel beforehand. Pastel turns poopy once you cease line-breeding and work on combos. Why are so many "bad" pastels hidden in combos? Absence of incest and line-breeding, thats all. It is at least a clown, possibly a pastel clown, all i can say is that its definitively a clown.

And ignore all people that compare good pastel to bad pastel. It is pastel, or it is not. It is not possible to take a nice line-bred reduced light bright pastel into any recessive combos, not even if it is a jungle pastel or pastel jungle or lemon pastel. 75% will be gone when moving it into clown, or any other recessive.