Why we recommend Provent-a-mite in particular

[kitedemon]

The biggest reason why there are so many using other methods is easy it is not legal in most of the developed world. Canada, it can not legally be brought in and the EU is the same. I don't know about the asia and australia but that is good reason not to use it. I thought it was being restricted in NY and Florida as well.

The use of it according to the information I was given has such extreme measures that I would not use it as it is too difficult to use safely.

"Vacate rooms after treatment and ventilate before reoccupying. Avoid contamination of feed and foodstuffs. Do not allow children or pets to contact treated arcas until surfaces are dry."

"Remove and wash contaminated clothing before reuse."

"Harmful if absorbed through skin."

"Avoid comact with skin, eyes or clothing."

"If on skin or clothing: .Take off contaminated clothing.•Rlnse skin immediately with plenty of water for 15-20 minutes.•Call a poison control center or doctor for treatment advice." -From the instructions.

from the EPA document (73617-1) http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_s...1-20040505.pdf

My snake room is carefully controlled, popping open the window when it could be as cold as -25ºF out is simply not going to happen. What do you wear? Tyvek suit, I suppose and toss it after you are done. I use the old school methods DE and some elbow grease the 5 times we have had rescues with mites the old methods worked just fine. Why subject your self to potentially carcinogenic chem and crazy precautions?



Personally I mix 1000s of gallons of toxic chemicals a year. I follow every precaution exactly that they state. I cannot see how an everyday person could follow the directions on the label of PAM. So the assumption is that they do not use the product in a safe manner.

[hotelvoodoo]

Pro-vent A Mite is the BEST! My fiancee and I were cursed with a mite infestation which affected 10 of our snakes. After two months of soaking, veggie oil rubs, and pet store treatment, I was reaching my breaking point. I was picking them out of my red-tail's scales with tweezers nightly. We ordered provent a mite and after a hard breakdown of all our racks and such, we treated and now do a very minor spot protection once a month. It's like nuclear weaponry. The mites are LONG gone.

Below is the best video I found on mite pro-vention (heehee... ) and this is the method I use now. Works like a champ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdBlrRTEEeM

[kitedemon]

Hotelvoodoo why on earth would you advocate using a product in a manor contrary to the very clear instructions found on the bottle? Especially on something that is known to cause damage to snakes and humans?

Seriously when using pesticides every precaution should be followed exactly!


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[hotelvoodoo]

Hotelvoodoo why on earth would you advocate using a product in a manor contrary to the very clear instructions found on the bottle? Especially on something that is known to cause damage to snakes and humans?

Seriously when using pesticides every precaution should be followed exactly!


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I advocate using it because it works, and I don't follow his method exactly. I don't however let the room air for a ridiculously long time and I do spray the racks and tubs directly. I don't do it when the snakes are in their tubs and make sure it's dry before they are reintroduced to their enclosures. I followed Brian Gundy's advice because he's a reputable and well respected breeder and I feel like he's probably figured out a great way to use the product without harming his animals. He says in the video he's been doing it that way for seven years without any ill effect, and if that's not a good result, I don't know what is. We have been using this method for the last six months once a month and our collection has remained completely healthy. The company imposes those precautions to avoid lawsuits. Am I taking a risk in not following their very careful instructions, according to the company? Yes. Did I get the advice to do this from an expert? Yes. Has it worked for me? Yes.

[Antonio]

I think I am about to have a mite encounter. I have seen 2 tiny black things flying in my ball python's house, I killed those but the snake has been soaking more than I am familiar with. I also let my snake crawl over a paper towel & it is shedding but I also saw a good bit of tiny brown specks or scale looking specks come off onto my hands & the paper towel. I have ordered PAM & Reptile Relief Sprays. Do I use those together or just one of the products? What do I do for the snake itself? My snake came from Petco. Thanks beforehand for any help. I am totally new at this although I have tortoises & have never had a problem. Antonio

[SnowShredder]

I stand by PAM. Has worked 100% in every way possible. Just be cautious with it and it's always turned out perfect for me