for Sale in Germany: 100% het black eye lucy, gene that interacts with fire.

[Pythonfriend]

Hi there

First of all, im not an expert when it comes to the fire-gene and the associated gene complex (disco, fire, sulfur, vanilla).

One of the most reputable breeders in Germany, Stefan Broghammer, has a gene for sale that behaves like follows: it doesnt look like fire, it doesnt look much like anything familiar but not quite normal either. Some strike me as really outstandingly beautiful. When you breed the gene to fire, you get a nice black-eyed leucistic that looks just like a super fire.

You can see them here:
http://www.ms-reptilien.de/index.php..._15_16_758_717

Unfortunately its in german, its about the snakes labeled ""het" Black Eye Lucy (M&S Linie)". They also have regular fires.

Its a reputable breeder, that is out of question, he authored and co-authored and published a number of books about snakes, and ball pythons. He even almost got a species of python named after him, but people abbreviate from python reticulatus broghammerus to python reticulatus. He also has for sale fire-like hatchlings that hatched from a fire-like looking ghana oddball that proved out to be genetic, and clearly labels them as "question" and "unproven", or even "Looks like fire to me, but who knows?".

So the gene is definitively for real, he sells them for years now, and they do what they are supposed to do. Considering the quantities, im quite sure that he gets them by breeding black-eye lucys that he produced with the gene to normals, and then sorts out the fires.

Now, my question for the fire-experts:

is this something new, or is it something that is already known under a different name? Fire is part of a gene complex, together with disco and sulfur and vanilla. Could it be one of these other already known genes? Yes you will need the link and need to look at some snake pics for this, so ill post some examples of the mystery gene to make it easier for you with the german website:

http://www.ms-reptilien.de/product_i...ducts_id=23136
http://www.ms-reptilien.de/product_i...ducts_id=24423
http://www.ms-reptilien.de/product_i...ducts_id=24424
http://www.ms-reptilien.de/product_i...ducts_id=24425 <--- i like this one the most

(EDIT: these links will go dead as snakes are sold, the top link should stay working)

so is it just all vanilla, or disco, or sulfur? Or is it a new gene in the black eye lucy complex? Or is it nothing except a black eye lucy-maker gene and we should keep calling it "het black eye lucy"? I think it will be an interesting riddle to solve. Im familiar with the fire-gene, but im ignorant about the other genes in this complex, so im lost here, cant get it figured out.