it seems you missunderstand me!
1. my stand is not reduced to kitten and puppies, that was the headline and introduction of the thread.
2. i never was saying all snake owners would do such thing or be cruel, sick or whatever.
also never was saying most snake owners will do such things, i just was saying i have no problem with people that do such.
3. have i ever say a word that means you should feed alive?
4.
the use of co2 is some kind of cruel cause the animal suffocates and it lasts some time till the it's gone.
5. i was spoken about indusrial produced feeders, and be sure thats a very nasty business.
just take a look at the prodution of our own meat, and now you really believe the production of feeders is any better than for human consumtion?
6. i eat meat by myself and also don't have any problem that it's needed to feed animals.
7. declare my stand to someting is absolutely no trolling.
8. who gives a f**k to peta, ever known they gassing shelter animals too?
9. just was trying to explain that there is absolute no rational reason not to use unwanted pets as feeders.
10. it seems you take your look at this a little to emotional.
11. there will be absolute no reason to defense the keeping of snakes as pets cause there isn't any bad by this.
12 there is absolute no reason to defense reptile owners for their feeding habits, feeding a pet isn't any bad.
i just have an objective and rational view on the things and can't see any bad by that.
every other one who will make the same should come to the same result at the end!
