Wow people are harsh, lol. The price is fair, and I don't think they look terrible. That being said, the male is pretty dark, and I would offer the guy $100, then go up to $125, see what he says.

There are always going to be lower grade snakes in each morph, but someone has to buy them if they aren't going to be culled. If you really want them you could get them and see what happens. Sometimes pastels are just ugly ducklings, sometimes they stay ugly. Sometimes even really nice baby pastels turn out not looking that great. I would suggest breeding them with lighter snakes though if you do decide to get them.

I bought this female as an ugly duckling, picked her up for $125 3 years ago -that's back when females were a good $175-$200 at expos.


Look at her now, she's the nicer yellow one on the right (@ 3 years old)


And for fun, here's that male when he was a baby, he looked way better than the female above, now look at him, he lost of a lot of his yellow. He's 5 years old now.