Thank you for the info reptileexperts! Looks like I've got a lot of learning to do. I've always liked the looks of retics and all the morphs available but never had a chance to actually handle one. Doing so was a mistake... now I really want one but certainly not an animal to rush into. When i'm ready i'll be getting a baby and i'll have to do some homework to determine what locality it will be. I don't do the facebook thing so i'll see if the people you mentioned have actual websites. I know bob clark does so that's probably the best place to start.