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02-13-2013, 09:52 AM
#171
Re: All Women Should Read This
 Originally Posted by SquamishSerpents
It's not about debunking stuff, there is no Field Guide to Rapists, there is no set anything to identify one.
The thing is, they're out there. If you read the whole thread you read a couple of posts by women who did not know some of the things mentioned in the article I pasted. It also got people talking. Some shared their horror stories and one idiot showed just how stupid and narrow minded otherwise intelligent people can be when they don't understand the real world.
Squamish, do you have kids? Any females if you do? A sister perhaps, a mother no doubt. Maybe a girlfriend, or a boyfriend, this is hardly a female victim only crime. If you have anyone you care about who is automatically a potential target simply because of gender or size or partner preference, then maybe you can comprehend why I posted this up.
Take into consideration as well that for everyone who DID share there are probably dozens, if not more, who remained silent, but suffered no less than those who shared. There's Grannies and babies and boys and girls, men and women being turned into victims every day. I'm thinking that anything that can help that not to happen is a good thing. Of course this wasn't meant to say "do this and you'll never be raped." It was simply meant as a starting point for those who maybe haven't considered it.
Had I not talked to my female offspring about this, and from a young age, I don't know that anyone ever really would have. I know a lot of parents never have talks like that with their girls. I think that is not a good thing. I think that anything that makes them more aware, more confident, more able to deal with a potentially deadly situation IS a good thing. It would be far better if there were no need to ever have these conversations, but doubtless you, like me, know that simply isn't going to happen anytime in the near future.
I think, well I know actually, that this post was originally made for the women specifically on this site, most of whom are fairly young and almost all of whom are the type of people who look for the good in everyone because they simply haven't seen first hand how little regard some people have for life itself, little say those upon whom they prey. I think, in that regard, this thread is a success. People will think, people will watch, people will be aware in new ways because they read what was written, not just by me, in this thread.
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02-13-2013, 10:05 AM
#172
Re: All Women Should Read This
 Originally Posted by wilomn
Had I not talked to my female offspring about this, and from a young age, I don't know that anyone ever really would have. I know a lot of parents never have talks like that with their girls. I think that is not a good thing. I think that anything that makes them more aware, more confident, more able to deal with a potentially deadly situation IS a good thing. It would be far better if there were no need to ever have these conversations, but doubtless you, like me, know that simply isn't going to happen anytime in the near future.
I think, well I know actually, that this post was originally made for the women specifically on this site, most of whom are fairly young and almost all of whom are the type of people who look for the good in everyone because they simply haven't seen first hand how little regard some people have for life itself, little say those upon whom they prey. I think, in that regard, this thread is a success. People will think, people will watch, people will be aware in new ways because they read what was written, not just by me, in this thread.
Exactly. My dad is a police officer. I was raised by someone who sees the worst of the world on almost a daily basis, but instead of fear he taught me to be aware, listen to my instincts, and respect the FACT that some people are just evil, regardless of whether your spiritual beliefs include such things. I didn't realize until college how many women didn't really get this simple fact. I picked up friends crying on the front steps of frat houses who really just thought they were there to hang out (and were sober). I scolded friends who tried to invite strangers to hang out alone because "they seem nice". I berated friends that walked to their cars alone at night. Were all of these guys would-be rapists? No. Were my friends stupid? No. Did they really believe it could happen to them until they had a brush or direct encounter with a dangerous situation? Hell no. Evils like rape, stranger or otherwise, can never be overcommunicated. It is our responsibility as people in this world to talk about it, warn others, give advice, listen with empathy and a willingness to believe, and ACT when something this horrible happens or "almost" happens.
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02-13-2013, 12:54 PM
#173
I appreciate the intention and discussion on this thread, and it's sparked some memories I haven't thought of recently.
I've hindered a could-be predator, on a zombie walk once with about 30 other friends in Lincoln, NE. We were all dressed as zombies walking downtown, for funsies...I had shorts and a tanktop hidden underneath, but on the outside, it looked like I was just wearing a towel (the goal was that I'd been zombified immediately after stepping out of the college dorm showers). I was trailing behind with a couple others, and noticed a guy hovering over a girl that was glancing around nervously. I approached them both, in polite zombie fashion, and asked the girl if she was ok while stared up at the guy. She was very uncomfortable, stuttered a response, unsure. I told her that if she wanted to leave and go find her friends or call somebody, she could go now. She nodded and left. I stared at the guy a few seconds longer, then joined my zombie cohorts.
In a second situation, my friend and I were at another friend's house, and as we were all gathering to go somewhere else, a neighbor (and his friend) approached me... their names were Juan, and Milton (not a common name, particularly for a latino male that hardly spoke any English, I think this is why I remember them). Juan was VERY pushy and kept insisting my friend and I take him down to he corner gas station real quick on our way to wherever we were headed. I flat told him no, sorry, we didn't have the room. He was in my personal space, trying to 'herd' me away from the others, and I was firm and direct with him.... shortly after, he tried doing the same thing to my friend. She is a competent and intelligent woman. Her parents were both professors at one point (one math, one law) and her mother is now an attorney (specifically aiding in putting sexual predators behind bars).... it's not like she's ignorant to what can happen... but she was still susceptable, didn't really know how to answer Juan, because she didn't want to be rude. I grabbed her arm and pulled her over to me and used myself as a 'shield' between them, and informed him once again that we would not be taking him anywhere. I informed the friends we had been visiting, and we left after being escorted to my car.
I don't give a damn if Juan was just a legitimately nice guy who wanted a bag of Doritos from the local 7-11, and I offended him. He was being rude, manipulative, and intimidating, whether he intended to or not. I'd rather him feel bad that a couple girls turned him down, than end up never viewing sex the same way again, or needing to comfort my friend. I've been held up at gunpoint as a child with my family before.. couldn't do much of anything about it then, but I've always been hyperaware of my surroundings while out in the world. I've had a couple friends who have been in horrible situations, and I've become not only protective of myself, but very protective of those I care about, or those I see in a sticky situation. I mentioned somewhere earlier than I'm not very strong.. pretty weak in fact, but I'm not an easy target, and neither are those in close proximity to me.
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02-13-2013, 01:04 PM
#174
It's sparked a good discussion for sure, I just really hate seeing the typical "copy and paste/share/forward this email" stuff going around again and again, when some of it is just completely inaccurate.
I get them all the time from my boyfriends Grandad, and I always have to tell him not to believe everything he sees. We almost got into an argument at dinner one time about the reverse PIN at the ATM thing. He was 100% certain it was true!
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02-28-2013, 08:47 PM
#175
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Re: All Women Should Read This
The MAJORITY of rape occurs from someone YOU ALREADY KNOW. Husband, friend, relative. Often in a place you would be COMFORTABLE IN. Rapists tend to look for people who are weak and timid looking. Talking to a stranger in an elevator, looking at his face reduces your chances of being a victim. "Hey, do you have the time?" Smile and look confident, don't be burdened with stuff. That can save you an assault. Plus trust your feelings but don't rely on them alone. Rapists tend to go after weak victims, LIKE KIDS. Not all people who molest kids are actually pedophiles, they are just smaller and easier to assault or convince!!
The clothes you wear are WAAAY less important than the attitude you have and being alert and aware of your surroundings. Not paying attention will get you trapped!
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02-28-2013, 09:29 PM
#176
I showed my mom this, cause she's tiny, 5'0", 105 lbs...her response, reached in her purse and pulled out a .38 special . Same caliber I carry with me, at 6'0 185. Hahaha I didn't even know she had a gun!!!!
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02-28-2013, 10:01 PM
#177
Re: All Women Should Read This
 Originally Posted by SquamishSerpents
It's sparked a good discussion for sure, I just really hate seeing the typical "copy and paste/share/forward this email" stuff going around again and again, when some of it is just completely inaccurate.
This was not one of those copy and paste things, I don't do those.
I thought it had relevance to members here so I posted it up.
I may not be very smart, but what if I am?
Stinky says, "Women should be obscene but not heard." Stinky is one smart man.
www.humanewatch.org
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02-28-2013, 10:19 PM
#178
Re: All Women Should Read This
 Originally Posted by darkbloodwyvern
The MAJORITY of rape occurs from someone YOU ALREADY KNOW. Husband, friend, relative. Often in a place you would be COMFORTABLE IN.
Just want to say that this is true. That's what makes it more scary.
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