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    I'd call her a giant, Kimbly.

    She sure has the head for it. Are you breeding her this year? If so, please keep me in mind for a male hatchling. From what little I read about these animals, any hatchling that is over 100 grams is considered a giant. For sure if you hatch a few males that big, I'd love one! Even if it's a normal.

    It's awesome we are finally seeing more of these amazing big girls.

    I think the main reason we don't really see males with the same label is that females get bigger anyway, so naturally you are drawn to the visually bigger females. Although, I've heard from one or two people who claim to own 6' males, and it would not surprise me if the snake is a male and is 6' that it's a giant as well.

    My hope is to one day see if the offspring from these massive girls can be selectively bred for the size. Can you imagine a 7000 gram pied ? A 7000 gram bumblebee? And with the massive clutches these girls are known for, what a treat to get maybe 9 or 10 babies with the potential to get that big!

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    If the BP natural range is south of the Saharan Desert, what is a sub-Saharan?

    Quote Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    I'd call her a giant, Kimbly.

    She sure has the head for it. Are you breeding her this year? If so, please keep me in mind for a male hatchling. From what little I read about these animals, any hatchling that is over 100 grams is considered a giant. For sure if you hatch a few males that big, I'd love one! Even if it's a normal.

    It's awesome we are finally seeing more of these amazing big girls.

    I think the main reason we don't really see males with the same label is that females get bigger anyway, so naturally you are drawn to the visually bigger females. Although, I've heard from one or two people who claim to own 6' males, and it would not surprise me if the snake is a male and is 6' that it's a giant as well.

    My hope is to one day see if the offspring from these massive girls can be selectively bred for the size. Can you imagine a 7000 gram pied ? A 7000 gram bumblebee? And with the massive clutches these girls are known for, what a treat to get maybe 9 or 10 babies with the potential to get that big!

    Gale
    Thanks you! yes, I am breeding her and the other female from that group, both are similarly sized (3100g and I think 2900g); but the girl pictured above is definitely the bigger one, with the KillerBee and Fire. I'm excited to see what they produce! I will keep you posted!


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    Our gravid sub saharan girl from Outback just laid a clutch of 11 flawless fertile eggs last weekend. We plan on holding back probably half of that but be on the lookout for 5-6 C.H. Giant hatchlings in 50 days or so . As per the OPs question, its exactly as OWOL said, the name sub-saharan doesn't make any since but it refers to these giant BPs.
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    LOL its a marketing ploy. ALL ball pythons are from the Sub Sahara. They use this name for the larger ball pythons.

    We have a few. Our fave girl is over 4kg.
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    I have 4 of these "Volta" females, They look noticeably different than a normal. Not just in size (they are all over 3000g) but the heads are huge. It's as if you were to compare a Pit Bull to a Lab.

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