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    Mojave

    Not 100% sure if this is the correct spot for this post....wondering if there are any "breed standards" for a mojave?

    Anything specific that I should look for when buying a good-high quality mojave?

    Thanks in advance!
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    You should buy what you like.

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    I would do that regardless of breed standards...this is more for my own curiosity's sake...as most pictures of mojave morphs I have seen just simply appear more brown than a lesser....

    wondering if thats all there actually is to the morph or if I am seeing poor quality photos or low quality morphs..
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    It comes down to personal preference always, but I'll give you my opinion of what I like to see in a mojave

    I prefer DARK mojave's. I don't want a mojo that someone could mistake for a dark lesser. Good contrast is another big bonus for me, like bright yellows on dark chocolatey browns. Pattern is important to me as well, I like something that catches the eye. Some floating donuts/keyholes on the side pattern is always a bonus for me. Blushing from the belly can really make or break a mojo. (Check out Goldblush Mojave's...holy crapapple)

    Here's a few pictures of my Mojave, I'm quite fond of him personally. But in the end, it's up to you! What do you want to look at in your racks

    When he was ~120g



    250-300g


    More recent shots (Unfortunately the light tent setup here kind of washes out his dark chocolatey colors a bit) ~450g

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    Re: Mojave

    Mojave is just one gene to work with, so breeding standards really dont make much sense.

    if you breed a mojave to regular BPs of different quality, you get mojaves of different quality. But that doesnt really affect the combos or super-form that much.

    ill try to post some pictures... Super mojave:




    Mojave mystic aka mystic potion:



    Enchi mystic mojave = enchi mystic potion = the corcra ball



    black pastel mojave:




    thats 3 examples of 2-gene combos and one 3-gene combo. Mojave, on its own, isnt that fancy in my opinion, but just add one more gene, the right one, and mojave does awesome, crazy things.

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    Re: Mojave

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurtilein View Post
    Mojave is just one gene to work with, so breeding standards really dont make much sense.

    if you breed a mojave to regular BPs of different quality, you get mojaves of different quality. But that doesnt really affect the combos or super-form that much.

    ill try to post some pictures... Super mojave:




    Mojave mystic aka mystic potion:



    Enchi mystic mojave = enchi mystic potion = the corcra ball



    black pastel mojave:




    thats 3 examples of 2-gene combos and one 3-gene combo. Mojave, on its own, isnt that fancy in my opinion, but just add one more gene, the right one, and mojave does awesome, crazy things.
    And this ideology is exactly why there are so many poor examples on the market.
    People buy poor examples cheap, the quality gets hidden the more genes you add, and then you're popping out poor quality when you breed. Sure, the super Mojave looks great. Good luck selling off those poor quality single genes once you breed.

    Quality should always be the first thing you look at. It's why we ask for pics of the parents.

    Whether it is a single gene, super, combo, recessive etc. Why bother breeding if you don't care what pops out? Breed up, not down or linear. Take care in choosing your snakes, even your normals. It will make a difference in your combos.

    If you want to breed just to breed, that's fine and you will still have decent looking offspring when you add enough genes. Personally I would rather breed up and have amazing offspring. To each their own. It just saddens me to see people saying single genes don't matter.

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    It all depends on what you like. In my opinion the Mojave is one of the prettiest base morphs. That being said, I have yet to get one because I haven't found one I like. For me, a reduced pattern, high blushing and good contrast make for a pretty Mojave. It is all about what you like.
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    I'm right there with RoseyReps as far as the chocolatey browns go. I love a super reduced pattern mojave, with mocha/chocolate/cream colors and cloudy floating alienheads. Rosey's mojave is absolutely gorgeous in my eyes. I love a mojave with intense blushing.

    here is my girl..always difficult for me to photo. She does not like to hold still:

    (crappy lighting, not in shed)




    (Proper lighting, but in shed!)




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    Re: Mojave

    I prefer mojos with high contrast.
    Dark bodies with bright yellows.
    I prefer blushing and more blacks rather than brown mojos.

    Heres mine as a baby:




    @ 1400 g:




    Quote Originally Posted by Kurtilein View Post
    Mojave is just one gene to work with, so breeding standards really dont make much sense.

    if you breed a mojave to regular BPs of different quality, you get mojaves of different quality. But that doesnt really affect the combos or super-form that much.

    ill try to post some pictures... Super mojave:

    thats 3 examples of 2-gene combos and one 3-gene combo. Mojave, on its own, isnt that fancy in my opinion, but just add one more gene, the right one, and mojave does awesome, crazy things.
    I disagree. Quality and variation makes a huge difference in combos and super forms. But you are right that breeding to different qualities produces different quality offspring. A poor quality single gene wont make as impressive combos as a high quality one. However, having high standards for single gene morphs is a must! Having an amazing base morph will produce amazing combos. Those combos will produce amazing base morphs in return. Its a cycle.

    Example, breeding a bright pastel vs a dark muddy pastel will make a huge difference in offspring. Especially in regards to the super pastel and other combos.

    Another example on how quality effects a 'combo' is albino. If you breed light colored hets, you get a light low contrast albino, which is not favorable. High contrast albinos are more desired and that can only be achieved though darker hets.

    Food for thought.

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    you guys are awesome!! and pics too!!

    Thanks for the pictures....

    I definitely love the darker browns!!
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