stacking system

[Pickle]

Okay, maybe this is just me, but personally but i do not like stacking systems. What kind of life is your snake having in a small box. I mean sure they are warm but they no room to do anything.. and this doesnt just go for snakes, this goes for geckos and beardies as well. If you want to breed then okay, thats fine. But having full growns in there in my personal opinion, isnt okay. If you want a lot of snakes then colonize in a big tank. Like i said, maybe this is just me but i wanted to see what everyone elses opinions were.

[Rob]

This has been touched on before, but Racks are perfect for Ball pythons. They love the tight warm spots. In the wild they spend their time in secure tight spaces by choice. Contrary to what people think large open enclosures with a ton of room to move about will tend to stress bp's out.

[cschneider]

There are also all different sizes for racks. A friend of mine breeds cresteds and he made racks that have tall enclosures. I think racks are a great idea and help save space in your house and can be made to properly house about anything.


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[jedidiah578]

I have rack systems for most of my BP's, I also have a fairly large custom made enclosure I made far an adult female i have & to tell you the truth the adult very very rarely comes out of her hide. the floor size on the enclosure is approximately 3.5 x 2 ft & she only uses about 1x2ft the only time i ever see her use the whole thing is when she is hunting for her rat. I think as humans we think its cruel to keep them in a small tote, because we like our open spaces, but in the wild they would find a tight space after their meal & lay there until they get hungry again only coming out to warm up.

[Kodieh]

Large tanks will largely be unused. They will find a secluded hole and stay there. In a tub, we create that secluded hole in optimum, controlled, environments.

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[skirtinthedirt]

Racks are perfect for most species that are kept in them. If the conditions weren't ideal for the animals you breed, you will have stressed animals and poor breeders. There's no way the big breeders that do this for a living would keep their animals in less than ideal conditions and get where they are at.

The idea that snakes and other reptiles should be kept in large glass enclosures with a bunch of decorations is basically propaganda generated by the pet store trade. It's a great way to turn a $100.00 reptile purchase into a $300.00 purchase in a hurry.

If you can keep your temps and humidity at appropriate levels and have a few reptiles, there's nothing wrong with keeping them in more elaborate setups, but much of the fancy stuff will go largely unused by your pets and these types of enclosures are very expensive and difficult to keep clean. Personally I don't recommend this method to most, and it's impossible for people who keep large collections.

Pythons are not communal by nature, and are stressed when housed together. Also, they do not like to be exposed so large, clear containers also tend to stress them.

Beardies have special needs when it comes to basking, UVB, etc, so I would be interested to see what a rack system looks like for them. Pics?

[skirtinthedirt]

To be honest some of my snakes that are more "finicky" have hides inside their tubs that are barely large enough for them to coil up in, and that is where they spend 90% of their time.

[jedidiah578]

@ skirtinthedirt the bigger breeders will use rack systems for their beardies they use tubs with more spacing between them for the basking & uvb lamps though. BHB has shown their bearded dragon set up in their videos.

[skirtinthedirt]

Good to know, thanks!

[dave21]

If you want a lot of snakes then colonize in a big tank.

I think snakes, especally ball pythons would be stressed in a roomy tank. And they will be even more stressed "colonized". Snakes are solitary species and housing a balll python this way can cause stress since they like small, dark places. I have 2 snakes and they are housed in seperate glass tanks because we do not have many and our house is cold so we need heat from above and below. The sides are blacked out and they arent too big for their size. Also housing multiple snakes together can cause illness to spread and you also cannot monitor feces and whatnot.