phantom vs mojave

[Anthony Renna]

Can someone please help me with the difference of these two maybe some side by side comparison pics. All I have seen look similar to me mystics stick out to me though lol

[Royal Hijinx]

Mystics and Phantoms are the same thing.

[I-KandyReptiles]

Mystics and Phantoms are the same thing.

So they're like lesser/butters?

[I-KandyReptiles]

I'm reading that they're different lines? :/

[Royal Hijinx]

They are pretty much like Lesser/Butter IMO.

Mystic Potion = Purple Passion

So, if you can tell a Mystic from a Mojave, you should be able to tell a Phantom from a Mojave as well.

[Anthony Renna]

They are pretty much like Lesser/Butter IMO.

Mystic Potion = Purple Passion

So, if you can tell a Mystic from a Mojave, you should be able to tell a Phantom from a Mojave as well.

I have to disagree, mystics are easier to spot a phantom to me looks like a bland Mojave. Side by side pics would be appreciated

[Royal Hijinx]

You have not seen very good Phantoms then. They are 2 lines of the same morph. I only have a Pastel Phantom, so I do not have other pics to pull up. Maybe someone else here does.

[satomi325]

No. Jinx is right. Phantom = mystic
They look the same and have the same form when combined with Mojave, which looks totally different imo....

Mojaves have more yellow contrast and have green tint imo. Phantoms are more brown toned.

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[Pythonfriend]

My first post on this forum

About phantom and mystic being the same gene with just 2 different names... I think its possible, especially when considering super forms and combinations with other genes.

In the big morph list http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs , if you look at super mystic, super phantom, these two look very similar. And phantom mystic also looks very similar. Combinations with butter or mojave already prove that both mystic and phantom are on the same chromosome / locus.

If phantom and mystic would really be 2 different genes, i think the super-forms and the phantom mystic should reveal it. But in my eyes, they dont.

For something different that also appears to be on the same locus, try mahogany. The super form is a paternless black like a super cinny or super black pastel. With the important difference that its on the same chromosome/locus as butter, mojave, special, russo, phantom/mystic, so you can get awesome stuff. like the black potion, the mahogany mojave, which looks like a really REALLY dark mystic potion. For just a simple 2-gene combination, mahogany mojave is really dramatic. Mahogany is unfortunately very rare and i have no clue where to get that morph. I guess in comparison to cinnamon or black pastell, mahogany, while being similar on its own, just wont interact as well with pastell.

whats also curious about mahogany mojave is that super mojave = blue eye lucy white snake, while super mahogany = super cinny-like black snake. And the combination: black-yellow-light grey.

Best regards, and if anything i write about genetics is wrong, please point it out, i want to learn from mistakes if i make any.

[satomi325]

Not my picture, but can you tell mystic or phantom with the mojave(right)?



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