thanks for taking up for me folks lol. I really dont think mike was trying to be a butt. that just seems to be his style. I didn't take it personally. I completely understand how people feel about CL ads around here and honestly i kinda expected to be blasted for it a lot worse. CL has its ups and downs. seems to be a lot more of the downs but i can usually sort them out before wasting too much time. the exception being like this time where i was blatenly lied to.