well thank you all ive read everybody take and it sounds good so now ima go cheap since im spending so much money on his tank the 8-12 sounds good i dont trust heating pads does my snake need a uvb bulb with the lighting alot of diff ppl say diff stuff on other websites idk im kinda goin thru it my chameleon just died my other 2 snakes got two big but was kinda young when i had them