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    Our KillerBee sheds are clear. Or atleast the last couple since I first noticed it.
    And to prove her as Het Ghost you could use any male that is atleast het Hypo, but I would recommend using a visual male. It will make it more likely to prove or disprove in only a couple of breedings and you are quaranteed that all the hatchlings will be atleast 100% Het Ghost.

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    Re: Patternless sheds??

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
    Ball pythons don't seem to read the books where we made up the cut and dry line between recessive and co-dominant (or incomplete dominant some say). In my experience both pied and hypo are "recessive with co-dominant tendencies". I've proven 3 possible het pieds (two of them only 25%) and two possible het hypos all picked on pretty clear markers. I'm not saying its 100% but it can be very useful when picking from a clutch of possible hets. I'll try to get a picture of my het hypo female in glow today as she is always light but in pre-lay glow she looks like a ghost. Some het hypo's even shed clear like homozygous hypos.
    Here is what I had mentioned earlier...from another thread....with no background on the snake, really can't say much, but you could get lucky.

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    Re: Patternless sheds??

    Quote Originally Posted by RobNJ View Post
    Sure it's possible...likely or not, I can't say. Who knows how many hets and poss hets have leaked through the cracks and get passed off time and time again. I haven't seen a het hypo shed clear yet, but some say they have...I've just really not payed much attention, as I've only purchased and produced 100% hets.

    And yes, any male, visual or het for ghost would work.
    I didn't think anything of it until after her second shed and she was still just as dull as the day I got her and I know that the visual on some ghost isn't the greatest and began wondering if someone hadn't tossed her int he normal pile not thinking anything else about it granted this would likely only happen with a novice breeder and not seasoned and experienced breeders well versed in morphs but I know anything is possible I just figured it was worth looking into more.
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    Re: Patternless sheds??

    Quote Originally Posted by RobNJ View Post
    Not a hypo...could be a het, but then you'd need to buy that male to find out anyway.

    Randy Remington(member here) can tell you something about het hypos and clear sheds though.
    Here are some images of known hypo/ghost that have the darker coloration which are what I looked for to compare her to as you can see in 3 of the 4 they are much darker than standard hypo's but they all come from proven lines examples like these are what make me think that a novice would have tossed her in as a normal their markings on the darker three are very subtle or am I missing something in the comparison that you as a more seasoned BP breeder could point out to me





    this one is considered green hypo
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    the green ghost are the ones that look closer to my girl than any of them
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    Re: Patternless sheds??

    Hypos have a lot of reduced black pigment. The heads are extremely faded, and it continues down the body. They're really intense in coloration when they hatch, and get lighter with age. Here's the picture you posted, I just circled areas of the reduced black on it's head/neck and going down it's back. As it grows and the pattern stretches, these reduced spots will be much more obvious.


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    Here's my 100% het hypo, she's a 2012 hatchling and you can see the het markers on her.

    I'm going to have to check her next shed to see if it has color She shed just after I picked her up last month.

    Here is my 2011 hypo(orange ghost) male. He looks "faded" compaired to my female and shed's clear

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    Re: Patternless sheds??

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyldrose View Post
    Here's my 100% het hypo, she's a 2012 hatchling and you can see the het markers on her.

    I'm going to have to check her next shed to see if it has color She shed just after I picked her up last month.

    Here is my 2011 hypo(orange ghost) male. He looks "faded" compaired to my female and shed's clear
    ok I am pretty new to morphs and genetic markers so what exactly is a het marker you mentioned in the photos?
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    1.1 BCA unknown locality (Osiris, Isis )
    0.1 Boa ( Nephthys )
    0.1 Leopard Gecko (Ms. President or Ms. P)
    0.2 Cats ( Raven, Snuggles )
    0.3 Dogs (Trinity, Athena, Lexi)

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