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[meowmeowkazoo]

Well, first of all I would like to apologize again, more sincerely this time, to Evenstar. I am very sorry that I questioned your level of experience, and became so aggressive about the pine issue. You made the effort to post in this thread to help me, and I was very ungrateful about it. So, I do apologize.

I genuinely appreciate the support and friendship I have found on this site, and I have no wish to alienate anyone over a disagreement about pine.

H.o.F.R. - Dolly is not a new snake, I have owned her since April 1st of last year. She was a rescue snake, which concerns me despite her 6 month quarantine. She was rescued with 13 ball pythons, none of whom have shown symptoms of IBD (as far as I know, I do not own them). Skiploder has 30+ years of experience with snakes.

I would like to share an article I read about cedar toxicity symptoms in snakes:

http://www.anapsid.org/cedar.html

"Symptoms of irritation include clear to discolored fluids discharged from eyes and nose (which may be mistaken for a regular microbial respiratory infection), sneezing, coughing, constant blinking or other signs of light sensitivity, irregular breathing (dyspnea) and possibly regurgitation. In severe cases, the animal may fall unconscious with or without convulsions. Secondary bacterial, viral and fungal infections are all the more likely to attack once the cells of the respiratory system are damaged and destroyed."

Dolly has not demonstrated any of these symptoms. I was not able to find any articles about the effects of pine, but I am assuming that hypothetically speaking, the symptoms would be similar to cedar toxicity.

I checked on her today in her quarantine tub, and she is coiled up as she normally is. No concerning symptoms today.

I was going to take her to the vet today, but I remembered that my husband will have the car. So she is going tomorrow, and I will update everyone as soon as I find anything out.