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    That big right now?
    I didn't think snakes could eat anything bigger than how big they were around. Maybe i'm not right about that but I don't know?

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    Re: Help with burm

    Quote Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    That's your source? Google? And everything on the internet is true too... So, no personal experience, which is understandable given that you are so young, but google alone does not a fact make.

    That snake doesn't look that bad. If it's eating it's got a good chance of being just fine with a few meals and a good home.
    Ahh, the three of us meet again! This time I'll be third party. -puts on bulletproof vest-

    While I agree that the internet is a tough place to get honest to goodness facts off, and there's a LOT of bad info out there, they said that one of the most "reported" illnesses is RI's. Which means that other people are claiming it as a common problem. So by that logic, I'm gonna say that they're going off of OTHER people's experiences, which is what the OP is/would be doing anyway. So without Burm owners/specialists chiming in to say otherwise that's about the best any of us can do.


    To the OP, I'm no Burm owner, so I can't offer anything helpful in specifics about your new girl. I'll just say that I held a 9-footer at a show and she was like three times as big around as your new one. But being skinny isn't anything that good meals won't fix. Start slow with maybe one or two jumbo rats, and work up from there?
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    It's not that the burms are prone to RIs, it's that humans are prone to improper husbandry.

    Do it right and 95% of the time you'll have no problems. Of course I've only produced a few hundred, and only kept them for about 20 years and never did have one get over 21 ft and a couple hundred pounds or so, so maybe I should go back to the internet too.

    It's great the kid wants to help, but parroting what he reads, or what anyone reads and repeats as fact without really knowing if it is, isn't really helping or teaching anyone. Talk to breeders and keepers, go to the sites of the big guys, join forums and Herp Societies.

    Do OTHER stuff than cruise the Net.

    Kept properly they're not really prone to anything other than growing.
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    Re: Help with burm

    Quote Originally Posted by confucius View Post
    That big right now?
    I didn't think snakes could eat anything bigger than how big they were around. Maybe i'm not right about that but I don't know?
    Big snakes eat big food. When you get him, I think it's a boy, on rabbits, you can go every 2 weeks with no problem.
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    I miss my Burm

    I hope you get him back to health.

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    Re: Help with burm

    Quote Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    It's not that the burms are prone to RIs, it's that humans are prone to improper husbandry.

    Do it right and 95% of the time you'll have no problems. Of course I've only produced a few hundred, and only kept them for about 20 years and never did have one get over 21 ft and a couple hundred pounds or so, so maybe I should go back to the internet too.

    It's great the kid wants to help, but parroting what he reads, or what anyone reads and repeats as fact without really knowing if it is, isn't really helping or teaching anyone. Talk to breeders and keepers, go to the sites of the big guys, join forums and Herp Societies.

    Do OTHER stuff than cruise the Net.

    Kept properly they're not really prone to anything other than growing.
    In order to not be a troll to you wilomn as you are quickly becoming to myself, I will only say this . . . Good for you. Now, in respect to that. Being the OP got the snake in poor condition, and bad husbandry is key, the experience of what is probably wrong is likely what occurs when the conditions and needs are not met. Since I don't abuse my animals to make them sick and see what sickness pops up first, I must result in third party experience on the matter. Not good enough? So sorry. Tell you what, go take one of your burms, underfeed it, lower its humidity to typical room levels. Let its water run dry all the time. Keep it on, oh i dont know, pine shreedings. Yeah! OK ok, and feed it a hopper mouse once a month, people do that right? Ok, good. Now keep this up for a few weeks. Oh and go ahead and turn your heater off. Who needs it! Now, when your snake gets sick you can give us your first hand experience on what sickness hits it first.

    PS. Please do not refer to me as "Kid". The college degrees on my wall have earned me at least that respect from you. You may refer to me as Sir, Reptileexperts, or Mr. Conway. Thank you.
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    Re: Help with burm

    Quote Originally Posted by reptileexperts View Post
    In order to not be a troll to you wilomn as you are quickly becoming to myself, I will only say this . . . Good for you. Now, in respect to that. Being the OP got the snake in poor condition, and bad husbandry is key, the experience of what is probably wrong is likely what occurs when the conditions and needs are not met. Since I don't abuse my animals to make them sick and see what sickness pops up first, I must result in third party experience on the matter. Not good enough? So sorry. Tell you what, go take one of your burms, underfeed it, lower its humidity to typical room levels. Let its water run dry all the time. Keep it on, oh i dont know, pine shreedings. Yeah! OK ok, and feed it a hopper mouse once a month, people do that right? Ok, good. Now keep this up for a few weeks. Oh and go ahead and turn your heater off. Who needs it! Now, when your snake gets sick you can give us your first hand experience on what sickness hits it first.

    PS. Please do not refer to me as "Kid". The college degrees on my wall have earned me at least that respect from you. You may refer to me as Sir, Reptileexperts, or Mr. Conway. Thank you.
    Well Squirt, college taught you a lot. Riddle me this college boy-

    When you don't have experience, and you're offering advice, and there's someone else who does have experience also offering advice, whose advice do you think may have more...weight? The fine college edumacated inexperienced oh so helpful kid, or the guy who's done this probably since before the kid was done, has seen this many many times because he's been doing this so long, is well versed in taking care of the problems people create for themselves and their snakes through ignorance and or stupidity, or the guy who went to school but has NO personal experience in what he chooses to give advice on, hmmmm?

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    My experience in reptiles goes deep for my age good sir. You still have not versed your experience in sick snakes that I now assume you must have.

    Again. You can address me as what I've stated before. Anything else will be considered offensive language.
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    Re: Help with burm

    "grabs a snack, sits back"
    Ok gentlemen, please continue!

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