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 Originally Posted by mr~python
i keep my snakes in a wooden enclosure with flexwatt on a thermostat under the cage.
also, it should be noted the snake coiled under the che would sit there for a moment warming up, then roam the cage when it was hungry. and only at night. i believe already said bps should be active AT NIGHT. not during the day. you guys are changing up what i say in order to support your weak arguments.
theres only so much to learn about how to keep a bp healthy. its not hard. im saying you guys should take things to the next level. you all follow a strictly regimented way of doing things. its quite funny. think outside the tub so your animals can thrive. if you really cared about ball pythons you kooks wouldnt be reproducing strains like spiders who are proven to be genetically unhealthy. but hey as long as it looks pretty and fetches a pretty penny right? lol
I wouldn't call a spider's wobble genetically unhealthy. I guess humans shouldn't breed either because we have the chance of producing kids with autism or Down syndrome?
I didn't say that you said they should come out during the day, I actually agreed with you that they are nocturnal. However, a PROPERLY fed BP should not need to "hunt" daily and roam all night. If its in its hide at night, it's content. It's not like it thinks "hmm, think ill go for a midnight stroll". They are instinctual animals. They do what they need to survive. Once again, you are placing your human emotions on them. They don't think like you.
Like Satomi said, they live in cramped termite mounds and rodents burrows. Being out and about is stressful for them in the wild. They have to worry about predators and the like. In my home, in their tubs, they have no need to go anywhere because I provide them with everything they seek in the wild.
Your snakes in their display enclosure is for your benefit. It's because you want to see them and because you are putting human emotion onto them thinking they would like a room with a view. They don't. I bet you believe your snakes just love being held and hanging out with you too. They don't. They may tolerate it, but they don't need nor want it.
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Re: a few observations
 Originally Posted by Zombie
I didn't say that you said they should come out during the day, I actually agreed with you that they are nocturnal. However, a PROPERLY fed BP should not need to "hunt" daily and roam all night. If its in its hide at night, it's content. It's not like it thinks "hmm, think ill go for a midnight stroll". They are instinctual animals. They do what they need to survive. Once again, you are placing your human emotions on them. They don't think like you.
Just wanted to highlight this specifically because it is a very valid point. With these animals, if you want to delve into their psychology as a part of their husbandry, you need to learn how to separate your emotions and wishes from what a BP just sees as daily survival, meaning they do much of anything that transcends beyond their needs (food, shelter, warmth, water). Once again, these snakes (most snakes, I would even venture) survive almost purely on instinct and do not engage in much recreational activity, so to speak, like most other animals. They do not play, exercise, seek extra stimulus from their environment, or as Zombie put it say "hmm, think ill go for a midnight stroll".
These are animals of habit and when they aren't surviving, they are resting in a very sheltered area, it is almost as simple as that. In that resting state is when we could presume that they are at their most content so I think the best enclosure/captive habitat would be one that facilitates that mental state whether it be a rack or a terrarium.
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