finally got some corns

[BHReptiles]

Like most have said, corn snake morphs are almost always recessive. Tessera and aztec are a couple that come to mind that are dominant traits. I don't think there's any co-doms like in the ball pythons. Stripe/Motley are on the same loci, so you can breed a motley to a stripe and get hets or get a motley/stripe which usually has a clear belly with motley saddles that sometimes connect in spots to make a broken stripe.

I think the sunkissed is a selectively bred amel, if I'm not mistaken.

Good job on your pick ups! I'm working with a snow motley and some hypo lavenders. I've also got an anery, normal, and a bloodred corn. My breeding goal is a hypo lavender bloodred! We'll see if I can get that!

[BFE Pets]

I'm thinking about picking up a pair of the patternless lavendars to add to my group just to be sure to produce some in the fiture. I'm a long ways off but I think pattenless butters would be hot!

[Andrew21]

Like most have said, corn snake morphs are almost always recessive. Tessera and aztec are a couple that come to mind that are dominant traits. I don't think there's any co-doms like in the ball pythons. Stripe/Motley are on the same loci, so you can breed a motley to a stripe and get hets or get a motley/stripe which usually has a clear belly with motley saddles that sometimes connect in spots to make a broken stripe.

I think the sunkissed is a selectively bred amel, if I'm not mistaken.

You probably meant sunglow. But either way I wanted to clarify that sunkissed is its own gene. Seperate from amel.

[BHReptiles]

You probably meant sunglow. But either way I wanted to clarify that sunkissed is its own gene. Seperate from amel.

I knew sunglow was selectrively bred amels, but I thought sunkissed were as well. However, before I saw this post, I did a little research and it's a Hypo gene that makes the sunkissed. It's different from plain 'ol Hypo and is also called Hypo Type B (kinda like Anerys vs. charcoals)

[Andrew21]

Hmm.. I didn't know that. It's wierd because of how sunkissed is kind of a pattern muttation as well as color because of the effect it has on the head. Where as hypo doesn't effect the pattern. But with the anery's they both pretty much do the same thing, one just has less yellow.

[BHReptiles]

I thought it was strange myself.

I'm currently trying to figure out my anery. I bought him as an anery motley but some people on the cornsnake forum think he might have strawberry in him (his mother was either a snow or coral snow...the breeder doesn't remember). To me, he looks like a coral ghost but I know the genetics aren't there. Corn snake genetics are so fun!

Here's a picture of my anery motley for a little visual to what I'm talking about:



That picture was taken in natural sunlight in my slipper xD Travis is about 30g in that picture.

[Andrew21]

Do you know what the dad was? I'm not really seeing coral ghost, but He kinda looks like a bright ghost, with dark boarders. Hmm...

[BHReptiles]

He's got a lot of salmon color in his background. One of the other people suggested he might have the strawberry in him to make him more of a "pastel" anery (she showed me some pictures of her pastel anerys and they were nearly identical to Travis). If he does have strawberry, it definitely tells me his mother was a coral snow. The breeder didn't have the best records with him (I got him at the NARBC in Arlington last August) but he said he was pretty sure the father was an anery motley. When I got him, he was about 12g and looked very much like an anery baby (black and grey). He's about 45g now and with each shed, he gets brighter and brighter. He's got a little bit of his yellow coming in but his "grey" background is turning more and more pink/salmon. I had made the post on the other forum because his bright color and pink/salmon background seemed strange to me for an anery so I asked if that was normal since I'm new to the anery morph. So really, we aren't sure what he is. I have a snow motley female to pair him with hopefully spring 2014 if my female is big enough. That will tell me if he's anery or not.

[SquamishSerpents]

Like most have said, corn snake morphs are almost always recessive. Tessera and aztec are a couple that come to mind that are dominant traits. I don't think there's any co-doms like in the ball pythons. Stripe/Motley are on the same loci, so you can breed a motley to a stripe and get hets or get a motley/stripe which usually has a clear belly with motley saddles that sometimes connect in spots to make a broken stripe.

I think the sunkissed is a selectively bred amel, if I'm not mistaken.

Good job on your pick ups! I'm working with a snow motley and some hypo lavenders. I've also got an anery, normal, and a bloodred corn. My breeding goal is a hypo lavender bloodred! We'll see if I can get that!

Yes, it's already been stated that sunglow is just a selectively bred amel. TBH it kind of pisses me off when people sell babies as "sunglows" because in my opinion, you can't really know that a baby snake will have enough white saddle reduction to be considered a sunglow until they are quite large, I'd say even a year or two before you can call them a sunglow for sure.

They look good! I still don't know what is in a sunglow, but it does for sure have amel. And from a little bit of research, I think that "patternless" comes from the strip gene. And you can not predict a for sure out come. So what I'm saying is, A) You can't have het patternless without het stripe, and B) You can not predict how many of the offspring will have the patternless appearance because it is not a gene, more like it is line bred to look like that. Hope that helps!

And yes sunglow is just plain amel, selectively bred to reduce or eliminate the white saddles. And no, you can't really have a snake who is "het. patternless." Again as already stated, it would be het. Stripe. Maybe the parents were really good examples of the vanishing stripe, but that has NO indication of how the babies (or the babies future babies) will turn out, so I'm not sure why the breeder would label them as that, other than to make it sound fancier. Either way, you didn't pay that much, so meh.

I thought it was strange myself.

I'm currently trying to figure out my anery. I bought him as an anery motley but some people on the cornsnake forum think he might have strawberry in him (his mother was either a snow or coral snow...the breeder doesn't remember). To me, he looks like a coral ghost but I know the genetics aren't there. Corn snake genetics are so fun!

Here's a picture of my anery motley for a little visual to what I'm talking about:



That picture was taken in natural sunlight in my slipper xD Travis is about 30g in that picture.

The whole coral thing is somewhat confusing; whoever coined the term "coral ghost" perhaps didn't think it all the way through, since a coral snow is simply hypo, amel, and anery. And a ghost is simply hypo and anery. However a coral ghost is strawberry + anery.

Oh well, what can ya do. Either way, nice pickups, corns are super fun!

[BHReptiles]

The whole coral thing is somewhat confusing; whoever coined the term "coral ghost" perhaps didn't think it all the way through, since a coral snow is simply hypo, amel, and anery. And a ghost is simply hypo and anery. However a coral ghost is strawberry + anery.

Oh well, what can ya do. Either way, nice pickups, corns are super fun!

Haha. This is why I much prefer ball python morphs! They are a million times easier to understand! But, I have 6 corns and I love them all dearly. I have two breeding pairs and two "pets". I'm just looking forward to watching them all grow and see what I can make as far as babies are concerned. So far I have my anery (at least I think he's anery) motley het amel with a snow motley and the second breeding pair is a bloodred het hypo/lavender/motley PH amel/caramel with a hypo lavender PH motley. Ultimately I want to make some hypo lavender bloodreds. My "pets" are an Alabama and a Miami phase normal corns.