Quarantine

[satomi325]

Satomi, how much do decals cost? Also I have never de-wormed my rodents, is that tue same process as deworming a dog?

Like $20-25. Sometimes more or less depending on your vet.

It's similar to deworming puppies.
I use horse Dewormer paste or Ivermectin from the feed store because it's easy to get and is cheap. It also works really fast.
It comes in a big tube and I just use a needless syringe to give orally to the rats. The dosage is about .01-.02 cc per rat (rice grain size).
And you shouldn't treat pregnant/nursing mother and pups under 2 weeks old.

(Ivermectin can also be injected subq if you wanted)

[JohnNJ]

I honestly would not quarantine in the same room. That defeats the purpose of quarantine. Many illnesses and even mite nymphs are airborne. I know you said the snakes are mite free, but I was just putting it out there.

You have to use totally different set of tools and supplies. You don't want to cross contaminate tools such as tongs, water dishes, scale, and even feeders. You want to work with your established collection before you work with the quarantined animal. That way you can't expose that new animal to the residents.

And I believe 30 days is much too short for a Q-period. I do mine for a minimum of 6 months. Some members even do a full year quarantine. Illnesses and disease can lay dormant for months before becoming active. Much longer than 30 days....

Wow! So if you're just starting out and you're frequently adding to your collection you would need a huge house. Keeping each new snake in a different room with it's own tools and feeders for a minimum of 6 months, I would think you'd run out of rooms pretty quick. A one year quarantine would require a mansion.

[captainjack0000]

Wow! So if you're just starting out and you're frequently adding to your collection you would need a huge house. Keeping each new snake in a different room with it's own tools and feeders for a minimum of 6 months, I would think you'd run out of rooms pretty quick. A one year quarantine would require a mansion

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. At what point does a 1yr quarantine room just end up being a second snake room? Or do you keep them all separate? What about eggs you hatch yourself from your own breeding stock. I wouldn't image they get quarantined, but I'm not a breeder either so I'm unsure.

[Pennstater6]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. At what point does a 1yr quarantine room just end up being a second snake room? Or do you keep them all separate? What about eggs you hatch yourself from your own breeding stock. I wouldn't image they get quarantined, but I'm not a breeder either so I'm unsure.

I don't think breeders quarantine there hatchlings because they have no outside parasites or diseases.

[captainjack0000]

I don't know anything about quarantine. Okay, I probably know something, but comparably little.

If we're talking about air transmission, wouldn't separate rooms be negligible if there was a central HVAC system that circulates the air?

How likely is infection for younger animals. Say I head over to a herp show and buy a 4 week old animal. Is it any less likely to be infected than a 4 year old animal?

Not that death is wanted for any animal, but is there ever a cost benefit analysis done? If I have thousands of dollars of snakes in a breeding operation, then of course a year quarantine seems to make sense. But if I am a dad and my oldest son has a BP and my youngest now wants one, does it make sense to spend $50-$100 on tests and year of quarantine for a $20 animal?

What about cross species contamination. I know it can happen, but has anyone heard of this? For example, are corn snakes carriers for pythons or are kingsnakes carriers for boas, etc. Do you quarantine those as well? What about non reptile pets. Do those get quarantined too?

[kitedemon]

No hatchlings from your own will have what the parents have. I use a long quarantine period but do not add very often often I have rescues and they are quarantined. I don't know how a breeder would add 3 or 4 animals from separate sources it would take one heck of a system to keep everything separate and clean. I suspect few big breeders do a full on quarantine they likely just have a temp space and use that. I know the larger breeders in my area have minimal quarantine as they need to buy and breed asap.

I too do annual fecals for everyone and two checks for quarantine (a single fecal is low accuracy it really takes two separate tests a few weeks apart to be sure. Every bowel movement may not have evidence of parasites) Quarantine animals also get a blood screen as well. If the animal has not come from a breeder I know and one that has not made changes to the collection in more than a year I also do an IBD screen.

[Pennstater6]

I don't know anything about quarantine. Okay, I probably know something, but comparably little.

If we're talking about air transmission, wouldn't separate rooms be negligible if there was a central HVAC system that circulates the air?

How likely is infection for younger animals. Say I head over to a herp show and buy a 4 week old animal. Is it any less likely to be infected than a 4 year old animal?

Not that death is wanted for any animal, but is there ever a cost benefit analysis done? If I have thousands of dollars of snakes in a breeding operation, then of course a year quarantine seems to make sense. But if I am a dad and my oldest son has a BP and my youngest now wants one, does it make sense to spend $50-$100 on tests and year of quarantine for a $20 animal?

What about cross species contamination. I know it can happen, but has anyone heard of this? For example, are corn snakes carriers for pythons or are kingsnakes carriers for boas, etc. Do you quarantine those as well? What about non reptile pets. Do those get quarantined too?

I thought that about desperate rooms. In my house doors aren't closed very often so air exchange from one room to the next is always happening so quarantine in another room doesn't make much sense. In my situation.

[kitedemon]

I don't know anything about quarantine. Okay, I probably know something, but comparably little.

If we're talking about air transmission, wouldn't separate rooms be negligible if there was a central HVAC system that circulates the air?

How likely is infection for younger animals. Say I head over to a herp show and buy a 4 week old animal. Is it any less likely to be infected than a 4 year old animal?

Not that death is wanted for any animal, but is there ever a cost benefit analysis done? If I have thousands of dollars of snakes in a breeding operation, then of course a year quarantine seems to make sense. But if I am a dad and my oldest son has a BP and my youngest now wants one, does it make sense to spend $50-$100 on tests and year of quarantine for a $20 animal?

What about cross species contamination. I know it can happen, but has anyone heard of this? For example, are corn snakes carriers for pythons or are kingsnakes carriers for boas, etc. Do you quarantine those as well? What about non reptile pets. Do those get quarantined too?

Yes leaving out the moral implications quarantine is not about the new animal but the current animals the truly nasty virus out there the treatment is euthanasia. It doesn't help the new snake one bit for the owner to discover it has an untreatable disorder and have it put down.

there is no higher or lower chances based on age. YES there are the two most terrible reptile disorders can be transferred from species to species boas to pythons for example (IBD) Viperid to Carpets, Paramyxovirus. Neither is cure able.

[captainjack0000]

YES there are the two most terrible reptile disorders can be transferred from species to species boas to pythons for example (IBD) Viperid to Carpets, Paramyxovirus. Neither is cure able.

What about animals that aren't in the same family. Both boas and pythons are Boidae.

[Ridinandreptiles]

No hatchlings from your own will have what the parents have. I use a long quarantine period but do not add very often often I have rescues and they are quarantined. I don't know how a breeder would add 3 or 4 animals from separate sources it would take one heck of a system to keep everything separate and clean. I suspect few big breeders do a full on quarantine they likely just have a temp space and use that. I know the larger breeders in my area have minimal quarantine as they need to buy and breed asap.

I too do annual fecals for everyone and two checks for quarantine (a single fecal is low accuracy it really takes two separate tests a few weeks apart to be sure. Every bowel movement may not have evidence of parasites) Quarantine animals also get a blood screen as well. If the animal has not come from a breeder I know and one that has not made changes to the collection in more than a year I also do an IBD screen.

just curoius how much does ibd and blood screen cost?