Has anybody ever used baytril in a nebulizer?

[ewaldrep]

My small normal developed a RI and she did not respond to the first series of shots so my vet gave me a new prescription of a dual antibiotic as well as baytril to use in a nebulizer. Has anybody done this before as an intervention? Thanks for any info or tips!

[DooLittle]

Did they do a culture? To make sure the antibiotics they prescribed were the correct treatment?

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[ewaldrep]

Unfortunately not, I didn't remember to ask about it when I was in the office and I don't want to take her back unless absolutely necessary because of the cold weather. I think that it made her RI worse last time because her temps dropped to 72 during the drive before the hand warmers bumped the temps back up. I hope this works though but I have heard most people talk about baytril injections so I just wasn't sure about the nebulizer. I wish I would have remembered to request one at the time though.

[kitedemon]

How long was the first set of injections? Was the treatment running for a while many weeks or just a short time? I have never heard of nebulizing baytril.

[ewaldrep]

first series was four shots but it had not effect on her, she was getting worse. I haven't heard of nebulizing it and that is why I asked here

[satomi325]

I have never seen a vet prescribe the use of a nubulizer on a snake, but a lot of herp keepers do a similar procedure with a mist maker and F10 disinfectant. The diluted f10 is used instead of antibiotics because it kills the RI bacteria. Many snakes have been successfully treated this way. So it's definitely not unheard of.

And I would definitely get a culture done so you're not just searching in the dark blindly trying out different treatments. Baytrill isn't as effective these days as before. A lot of RIs are resistant to it.

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[kitedemon]

Four shots is a very very short period most vets have runs of one to two months of shots every three days. I am not sure there is a correlation between a disinfectant and an antibiotic but in any case I have never heard of vaporizing an antibiotic. I think I would seek a second opinion at this point. You vet is treating your snake more like a mammal than a reptile. A culture is a great idea however after antibiotics have been already given it is not accurate anymore and waiting for the antibiotics to clear the system (3 weeks+) is not likely a good idea.

[3skulls]

Yes, I have done it.
It was a few years back. Some kids found a 12' burm in the woods covered in ticks and mites. Very bad RI and way under weight.

We worked along one of the best exotics vet in the area. Rehabbed him in my home for close to two years. He had his moments of getting better but never fully recovered.

He was my 2nd snake and I still miss him. We did try this method and a number of other things.

Good luck with your snake.

[patientz3ro]

Baytril is actually a relatively broad spectrum antibiotic, so a culture isn't absolutely required. It also has an extremely rapid onset of activity, something like 20 to 30 min after administration. As for nebulizing it, there shouldn't be a problem. Just about anything that can be injected can also be delivered by inhalation. With a respiratory infection, inhalation is very likely t be more effective than injection. Also, inhalation presents a MUCH lower risk of systemic side effects than injection. I think the only problem you're going to have is with the delivery. I've never actually tried to get a snake to wear an aerosol mask or use a mouthpiece, but I imagine it would be pretty entertaining to watch. Instead, you're going to want to place the snake in a tub that doesn't have a ton of ventilation and fog the tub. Think gas chamber.

With regard to drug resistant organisms and growth cultures, Simply doing a culture is only half the battle. If you're dealing with a resistant organism, doing a culture is going to tell you that you have an infection caused by an organism that is normally susceptible to Baytril. You still have to figure out what's going to kill it. Ordinarily, a vet will just prescribe a different broad spectrum antibiotic.

[3skulls]

We used a large tub and hung the device from the top. If I remember, I'm pretty sure we did 30 min sessions.