Haha it seems to me that the Vikings beat the lions not once but twice this year can't say the lions beat themselves both times lol and yes thank goodness for AP he's a beast and ponder is doing alright he has moments when his potential shines thru noones all pro by their second year I have faith he'll prove out good. And if I had to pick ponder or stafford it would be ponder all the way haha but we all have our opinions about who's best that's why I wanted to start this so we can all debate about the teams an just generally bs over football