Breeding loan contract

[Kinra]

I am looking for opinions on a breeding contract I am writing up.

This is going to be a contract between me and a local breeder who is a friend of a friend. He wants to borrow my pastel yellow belly male for the season because his won't breed. He has two normals that he suspects could possibly be spectors. I am not really concerned about the outcome of the breeding, I just want to ensure I get my male back healthy.

We have agreed that I will get pick of the combined clutches, so who gets what has already been taken care of.

Do you think the following is fair? Have I missed something important? It is all still in note form, but that's easier to ready anyways:

Contract Length
- My male will be returned to me no later than December 1st 2013
- The contract is consider complete once my male is returned and the clutch has been split as detailed below

Quarantine
- No less than 30 days
- I am responsible for the cost of treating anything the pops up during this period

Care
- He agrees to provided sufficient care (housing and feeding) as required of the species

Vet Expenses
- I will be responsible for vet expense during quarantine unless the illness/injury is clearly the borrowers fault
- The borrower is responsible for expense outside of the quarantine period

Death of the animal
- I will be responsible for the cost of a necropsy to be preformed by my vet
- If the cause of death is found to be the borrowers fault, he agrees to replace the animal or provide compensation for the loss

Clutch division
- I will get first pick of the combined babies
- The borrower will keep the remaining babies

No clutches produced
- I will be responsible for compensating the borrower for feeding cost accrued during the contract length

Using different males
- The borrower agrees not to pair any other males with these females while the contract is still in effect.

[Mike41793]

What do you mean by first pick of the clutches? Like you get one snake (first pick) from each clutch and he gets the rest?

Thats the only thing that pops out at me. Otherwise i think this looks really good and seems fair!

[Kinra]

What do you mean by first pick of the clutches? Like you get one snake (first pick) from each clutch and he gets the rest?

Thats the only thing that pops out at me. Otherwise i think this looks really good and seems fair!

I only want one snake total from this, so I am trying to word it as, you put all the babies from both clutches together and I get to pick one and he gets the rest. He is going to be doing all the work so that seems fair to me.

Also if his females prove out to be spectors but between the two only produce one super stripe, I have no intention of taking the super stripe. I'm not sure if I should specify that.

[ktaylor89]

I've never done a breeding contract so take my opinion lightly but I don't think you should have to compensate him if there is no clutch produced. It could have been that his female/s didn't take. I may be reaading that wrong since I'm really tired tonight....

[dillan2020]

I've never done a breeding contract so take my opinion lightly but I don't think you should have to compensate him if there is no clutch produced. It could have been that his female/s didn't take. I may be reaading that wrong since I'm really tired tonight....

X2 and the clutches should be split 50/50 even if you want just 1 you could sell the rest. or however you want to work it but to me 1 snake for you and all the rest for him seems completely unfair to me.

[Kinra]

I've never done a breeding contract so take my opinion lightly but I don't think you should have to compensate him if there is no clutch produced. It could have been that his female/s didn't take. I may be reaading that wrong since I'm really tired tonight....

No, that was what I had meant. I personally will feel bad that he has been caring for my snake with no return if neither female produces. This way at least he won't lose any money paying to feed for my snake if his females don't produce. It may make the contract skewed in his favor, but it will allow me to sleep better at night.

[Andybill]

I don't think you should have to compensate him if there is no clutch produced. It could have been that his female/s didn't take.

I agree. Other than that everything else sounds good.

[Kinra]

X2 and the clutches should be split 50/50 even if you want just 1 you could sell the rest. or however you want to work it but to me 1 snake for you and all the rest for him seems completely unfair to me.

Honestly the only snake I would take from the clutches would be a hold back for me. I don't breed to make a profit, I breed to produce hold backs and morphs that I want. To me this is someone who is going to be assuming responsibility for a male I had no plans for this season and on top of that I will most likely get a free snake from the deal. I know from last year that breeding is a lot of work and in this case I don't have to do any of it, it's a win all around for me. The way the clutches will be split was my idea and I am happy with that part of the arrangement.

[Mike41793]

I only want one snake total from this, so I am trying to word it as, you put all the babies from both clutches together and I get to pick one and he gets the rest. He is going to be doing all the work so that seems fair to me.

Also if his females prove out to be spectors but between the two only produce one super stripe, I have no intention of taking the super stripe. I'm not sure if I should specify that.

I feel like the contract is too heavily skewed towards his favor but as long as both parties are happy i guess it doesnt matter. If i was giving one of my males out in a contract like that i would definetly want a little bit more out of the deal but thats just me.

[snakesRkewl]

Personally I wouldn't loan a snake to a friend of a friend for a breeding loan.
I do breeding loans but only with friends.