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Re: Question about breeding desert females!
Originally Posted by jinx667
You really have a lot of reading to do before you start spending any cash. Even with a male, you will need an outlet for the females you produce, so keep that in mind. Many folks do not want to feed a non-breedable female.
I have done alot of the reading especially in these forums and the way I see it is if I end up with females I will keep them or give them to my nephews nieces cousins I have alot of family members that would love a nice snake.
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The way I see it is there are two facts:
Deserts make awesome combos &
Females have reproduction issues
My thought is this should keep the desert gene going, as it is much harder to produce combos. Therefore, prices should not drop as drastically. While on the other side of this, if you want an awesome looking snake, with no interest in the breeding, you can also pick up the same combo at about 1/3 of the price.
To me, sounds like a win win for both breeders and those looking for an awesome pet.
That is what made me to decide to buy my breeder male this weekend. I will also be on the side of the fence where until there is conrete proof that they at no point will ever produce viable clutches, I'll be holding a few of my females back. I will definately not give anyone looking to buy one the impression that they will breed, however. Full disclosure here.
Just my opinion of many. Feel free to agree or disagree.
Last edited by adamfritzsche; 10-30-2012 at 09:03 AM.
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Where is the info on lowering temps for a desert female to produce a clutch that is good. I am interested I would like to read it and look further into it. I have a desert male and should have some hatching in the next couple days. I would like a female to see what the possibility of her laying is.
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Where is the info on lowering temps for a desert female to produce a clutch that is good.
There is no info that it works because it probably doesn't. It has been tried by multiple people with the same results.
If wonder if the desert gene was worth what a pastel is worth would all this fuss be going on?
With many hundreds of base mutations it seems people forget that occasionally one might not work genetically for whatever reason.
Spider champs, super HGW and more combo's are lethal, why is it such a stretch that we have found another mutation that won't work?
The reason has probably been found as to why they can't provide us with good eggs but being human we want to "fix" everything that's wrong.
Sometimes it just isn't possible
Last edited by snakesRkewl; 10-30-2012 at 11:22 AM.
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Re: Question about breeding desert females!
if you want to get into desert [type] stuff, get into the desert ghost gene. its the recessive. females aren't infertile and the combos are rad.
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Re: Question about breeding desert females!
Originally Posted by adam_c
if you want to get into desert [type] stuff, get into the desert ghost gene. its the recessive. females aren't infertile and the combos are rad.
They don't look anything alike... lol
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Originally Posted by TJ_Burton
They don't look anything alike... lol
No. But both are a clean up morph with similar effects.
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Last edited by satomi325; 10-30-2012 at 01:39 PM.
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I don't think it's fair to say they don't look anything alike, or are not similar. They are non related morphs yes, but I believe I read (my memory is crap, so please correct me if I'm wrong) the reason behind the "Desert" name was that when it was imported, they actually thought it was another line of Desert Ghost, and were expecting it to be recessive etc? I think they are similar in what they do in combos.
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...ert-pinstripe/
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...ost-pinstripe/
Now, I'm not saying those look exactly alike, but I think there are a good bit of similarities, enough to use DG as a suggestion for people looking to work with Deserts anyway.
*shrug* my opinion anyways
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Found where I read it, it was on Albey's site.
The excerpt:
Around 2001 Stan Chiras purchased his original Desert male as a 350 gram import. At the time of purchase it was assumed to be a Desert Ghost. When it got up to size to breed it was bred to a Normal Female and the offspring were expected to be Normal looking Het Desert Ghost. Much to his surprise two of the babies looked just like the Father. Around this same time Peter Kahl imported a like animal that he also thought was a Desert Ghost. His Desert did the same thing as Stan’s. Stan and Peter compared their animals and determined that they were the same thing. Instead of being a Simple Recessive trait it appears to be Co-Dom.
From this page http://www.albeysreptiles.com/desert07_1.htm
So saying that the Desert, is not connected in any way, is a bit of a stretch. The original ones were thought to be DGs, so suggestion of the use in replacement is not so much an oddity as people like to claim
Last edited by RoseyReps; 10-30-2012 at 02:04 PM.
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Re: Question about breeding desert females!
Originally Posted by RoseyReps
I think there are a good bit of similarities, enough to use DG as a suggestion for people looking to work with Deserts anyway.
Maybe not exactly the same but an excellent trait none the less
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