Quote Originally Posted by RoseyReps View Post
Just like your venomous evolved in a glass box, with a human staring at them, snapping pictures while they try and hide.. Do you see how asinine that sounds? Get off your high horse, and stop putting people down because they don't conform to what you believe the snake likes best. You said yourself there is no way for us to know what the snake prefers, assuming in both situations the snakes are feeding, active, disease free etc. Assuming that everyone other than yourself, or everyone who doesn't "recreate a rat burrow" in their set ups is not passionate, and/or "has dollar signs in their eyes" is flat out childish and rude. Sorry mate, but you are not better than any other person on this forum, and your little exo-terra vivs don't give you the right to put others in our hobby, with thriving beautiful snakes, down.

Coming here and sharing your beautiful animals is greatly appreciated. Giving your advice, which I'm sure you have mountains of, is also very much appreciated. (that was only slightly sarcastic...sorry, you really irked me. I don't doubt you have extensive knowledge, but I can't stand when people think they are better than everyone else) but making a swipe at the general populous of bp keepers that they are not passionate, and talking down to numerous members, is not appreciated. At all.
Nothing about captivity is natural, granted. But does that mean just because one aspect of keeping isn't, you just disregard the rest and make everything completely unnatural? Size is also another thing, a lot of the time racks are used so people can cram in as many snakes as they can. Which is wrong again, when my Gaboon Vipers are older maybe 6ft, they will be going into 10ft Viv's - not because i'm a millionaire but because i want to provide the best enclosure i can. I would rather have less snakes, and all kept in big vivs where they can exhibit their natural behaviors rather than more snakes and cramp them in racks which aren't even the length of the snake.

You seem to be under the impression that a snake will only feed/breed if it is happy and healthy...That isn't correct, it is survival. It is programmed into animals to survive and keep the species going. There are many reptiles that aren't feeding consistently, and are ridden with disease yet they will breed.

It's got nothing to do with what i keep my snakes in, you could keep yours in a cardboard box for all i care. But it's the way in which so many keepers are satisfied with providing just the bare minimum. This is my opinion, and nothing for you to be offended by, this is what i don't understand about so many reptile keepers you all get worked up so easily.

We have a voice and an opinion for a reason, to voice it.

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Quote Originally Posted by reptileexperts View Post
Crot the species have evolved as domesticated animals. They are still wild in true nature, but domesticated by selection. We do our best to accomodate their needs using tubs. So yes, Royal Pythons have evolved through domestication to live on news paper, how about that!
Oh really now? Do you understand the word evolved?

e·volve 1. a. To develop or achieve gradually: evolve a style of one's own.
b. To work (something) out; devise: "the schemes he evolved to line his purse" (S.J. Perelman).

2. Biology To develop (a characteristic) by evolutionary processes.
3. To give off; emit.

Tell me how these ball pythons you have, have done any of what the definition of the word suggests? Maybe they've developed reading glasses to read the newspaper!!