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    Re: Desert! To FAIL or not to FAil??????

    I would not necessarily write off the desert gene. The male desert can be bred into many other combos that can still produce viable eggs. As far as I know, it is only the single gene desert female that is unable to produce viable eggs. Justin Kobylka has a desert pied for sale currently and it is very beautiful!

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    I'm pretty sure its any combination of desert. If the desert gene is in the mix, the female will not produce viable eggs. I've not heard of any combo in which the female having the gene was able tto produce offspring.

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    Re: Desert! To FAIL or not to FAil??????

    Even if that is the case, as long as you have a male with desert gene you can make some pretty awesome combos. However, it would be interesting to see if a female with 4 or more genes in it, including the desert gene, would produce viable eggs.

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    Re: Desert! To FAIL or not to FAil??????

    I think I'm super writing it off! Odds are tough, ever play poker? With a dessert you can only hope u get males in the odds which just sounds majorly ridiculous IMO.
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    Re: Desert! To FAIL or not to FAil??????

    Quote Originally Posted by KingPythons View Post
    So combos with deserts are pointless wouldn't y'all agree?
    thinking of economics yes, but if you forget about money, now all you are left with is half the chance to produce something that advances farther genetically. makes it kind of exciting if you ask me.

    Quote Originally Posted by S.I.R. View Post
    Even if that is the case, as long as you have a male with desert gene you can make some pretty awesome combos. However, it would be interesting to see if a female with 4 or more genes in it, including the desert gene, would produce viable eggs.
    That would require a trait to dominant over the unknown problem. Just adding more genes isn't going to fix them. Now is it possible? Sure, but your looking at a huge long shot and single gene deserts would have just as much of a chance of having the mystery gene that may or may not exist in the first place. So far none have. To put money and time into an animal just to send it to it's death (I have to imagine a painful one after all) is just bad based on blind faith alone. I think that's all we can really call it now with all the information available.

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    Personally, I don't think it is possible to overcome the problem with females being unable to produce. Think of it this way:


    ANY variation (be it pattern, color, etc.) from normal wild-type is a genetic defect. Yes, the defect may be pretty, but a defective gene none the less.

    How can adding 2, 3, 4, or any number of defective genes to the mix fix it?
    Last edited by King's Royal Pythons; 10-22-2012 at 06:51 PM.

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