We produced 3 super cinny/Black pastels this year. We like the cross between the two the best as it seems to have less issues than a solid black to black or cinny to cinny. One of ours has a small kink, but the other 2 look good. Another issue we have found though is even a small kink that goes un-noticed as a hatchling can become very noticeable as an adult. For this reason we really don't like selling them on-line and prefer in person, that way the buyer can fully check them out and say good to go when they walk away. Not that most kinks are detrimental to the overall health of the animal, our holdback male super cinny/black has a couple of small kinks and he eats and produces waste just fine. Also he produces perfectly healthy cinnamon pastels and black pastels.