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    Random question

    So, if you had a yellow belly female, and paired her with a yellow belly male, and a pied male would you have a chance of producing an ivory pied? Or just an ivory het pied? Are those even compatible??
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    Random answer - Purple!

    Serious answer - If you had a yellow belly girl, and paired her with a yb boy & pied boy, you would have a chance at EITHER ivories, ybs, normals, YB het pieds, normal het pieds.
    Each egg can only contain sperm / DNA from 1 male. So you can't mix the two male genes together with one female.
    The only way you would get a pied out of that pairing at all (and it wouldn't be an ivory) would be if your YB girl was also het pied.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's kind of a no no to pair a recessive and a co dom with a female at one time. Because you would never know which dad won the sperm battle, or if you had a split clutch. IE: say you had bad odds and got 5 normal babies...who was the daddy? Are they just normals or 100% het pieds? No way to know. And even if you popped out a YB baby, did you have a split clutch? Are the normals normal, or het pieds? See the confusion?

    Hope I explained that well enough to understand...I ramble a lot

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    You would produce ivories, yellowbellies and normals from the yellowbelly and IF it was a dual sired clutch the yellowbellies and normals would be 100% het pied. I would not recommend doing this though because it would be impossible to know until you bred them. I would breed the yellowbelly to the yellowbelly and shoot for ivory or just yellowbelly to pied and go for yellowbelly 100% het pied. In order to make a visual recessive both parents have to be at least het for the trait.
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    Re: Random question

    Quote Originally Posted by angeluscorpion View Post
    You would either produce ivories, yellowbellies and normals from the yellowbelly and IF it was a dual sired clutch the yellowbelly and normals would be 50% het pied. I would not recommend do this though. I would breed the yellowbelly to the yellowbelly and shoot for ivory. In order to make a visual recessive both parents have to be at least het for the trait.
    Well...that was a lot easier way to say what I meant...

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    No neither would be produced and you should not attempt a double sired clutch with a recessive and codom male to a codom female. There would be no way to tell which babies were het pied.

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    Thanks for clearing that up! What about an ivory het pied to another ivory het pied.. You would get only ivories, and would any of them be ivory pied? And the normal ivories from the clutch have to be proved out...hmm
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    Male:
    Ivory, Het Piebald
    Female:
    Ivory, Het Piebald
    Percent Fraction Traits
    25% 1/4 Piebald, Ivory
    50% 1/2 Ivory, Het Piebald
    25% 1/4 Ivory

    Let's see if that works

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    Yes, so looking at that table, all Ivories (not pieds) would be 66% het, and you have a 25% chance per egg for an ivory pied

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