Kelly's eyes!

[Salamander Rising]

my snake's eyes were recessed and had swollen eyebrows and his jaw didn't sit together ...and it was mouth rot. wait til shed and take her to vet.

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OMG....poor snake.

Kelly's nowhere near that bad.

Could you see anything odd going on inside of his mouth?

[SlitherinSisters]

She's an extremely aggressive feeder and has mis-struck many times, either going overboard and hitting the tank sides or her climbing tree.

She's also one who flings her "kill" all over the place during the coil.

[drama queen]

Apparently, wrestling 'mommy' is a very good cure for constipation, as well.

Nothing looks bad to me, her head doesn't look swollen, her eyes just look a little weird. My guess would be a miss-strike, but keep an eye on her just in case.

[SquamishSerpents]

I actually have a few snakes who tend to look "puffy" when they are in blue, it usually goes down after a day or so.

Then again, I had another snake who had "duck face." We did take her to a vet and put her on anti-biotics, but it was concluded that she was most likely swollen from rubbing her nose. The tolerance between the tubs/top of the rack was a bit too much and I think she was sticking her snout in between and maybe that caused the swelling.

Here is a link to pics (Scroll down) http://squamishserpents.ca/bad-clutc...-baytril-oh-my
But I noticed her looking weird in the same way you did with your snake; I thought her eyes looked smaller/sunken in.

Honestly though, your snake doesn't look that bad but I would absolutely keep an eye on it. have you tried having 2 people wrestle your snake into letting you look in it's mouth? I get my boyfriend to hold the back end. Let the snake coil it's back end around your assistants arm, and then grasp the snake behind the head and pry open the mouth with a rubber spatula (one you would use for icing a cake) it's soft enough that it should not hurt the teeth at all. I do this with an LED flashlight held between my teeth just in case I need a better look. A headlamp would work also.

Good luck!

[Salamander Rising]

I actually have a few snakes who tend to look "puffy" when they are in blue, it usually goes down after a day or so.

Then again, I had another snake who had "duck face." We did take her to a vet and put her on anti-biotics, but it was concluded that she was most likely swollen from rubbing her nose. The tolerance between the tubs/top of the rack was a bit too much and I think she was sticking her snout in between and maybe that caused the swelling.

Here is a link to pics (Scroll down) http://squamishserpents.ca/bad-clutc...-baytril-oh-my
But I noticed her looking weird in the same way you did with your snake; I thought her eyes looked smaller/sunken in.

Honestly though, your snake doesn't look that bad but I would absolutely keep an eye on it. have you tried having 2 people wrestle your snake into letting you look in it's mouth? I get my boyfriend to hold the back end. Let the snake coil it's back end around your assistants arm, and then grasp the snake behind the head and pry open the mouth with a rubber spatula (one you would use for icing a cake) it's soft enough that it should not hurt the teeth at all. I do this with an LED flashlight held between my teeth just in case I need a better look. A headlamp would work also.

Good luck!

I have no idea what's up with her eyes but apparently they've always been this way.

I looked up photos of her from the time she was little until now and they 'look weird' in every one.

She's over a year old now so i reckon it's 'just her'.

They're on this thread if you'd care to look

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...hat-the-heck-!

She's happy, she eats like a mad woman and is growing almost scary fast so it can't be anything that bad.

We tried a two-person 'assault'.

She won.

No matter what we did, as soon as I messed with her face, she went into an alligator death roll...even when inside a snake sack.

She's kinda got her own thoughts about how things should be.



I thought maybe she'd knocked her climbing tree over on herself and got a head injury but the year long photo records show the same beady eyes.

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Nothing looks bad to me, her head doesn't look swollen, her eyes just look a little weird. My guess would be a miss-strike, but keep an eye on her just in case.

You know by now that if any of my snake kids have so much as a 'funny looking' scale, I instantly go into hysterics.....

[and all my dogs' vet record folders look like Gutenberg bibles]

[SquamishSerpents]

If she's always been that way, then don't fret I guess.

I guess she just has opposite of the bug-eyes that some ball pythons can get!

[Salamander Rising]

If she's always been that way, then don't fret I guess.

I guess she just has opposite of the bug-eyes that some ball pythons can get!

She pounds rats like they're going out of style so what the heck.

I'm grateful for that.

She gained 1400 grams in less than 9 months...just eating 'normal food'.

[I always say her eyes are bigger than her belly...guess the opposite was true]



My beloved beady, greedy Kelly.



[could she be so fat that her face is too fat for her eyes?]

[hypersomniacjoo]

when I looked in my lessers mouth, i looked at his lower jaw and in the general throat area...i didn't look up behind his front lip, one of the ridges (there are two, on either side of the top of the mouth) was quite swollen, which the vet pointed out when she looked in his mouth. he had been doing some nose rubbing as a symptom of having mouth rot and i believe that contributed to the swelling of his face.

[RaltsXIV]

Have you tried putting her in a headlock? Lol

Put her under your left armpit with the majority of her body behind you and maybe six to eight inches in front. Firmly grasp just behind her head with your left hand and you should be able to use your right hand to get her mouth open. Works for my difficult girl.

[Salamander Rising]

Have you tried putting her in a headlock? Lol

Put her under your left armpit with the majority of her body behind you and maybe six to eight inches in front. Firmly grasp just behind her head with your left hand and you should be able to use your right hand to get her mouth open. Works for my difficult girl.

Oh, lord...I'd be ashamed to tell you the insane things we tried over the span of almost an hour.

We're thinking of getting her a costume and putting her RAW Wrestling, she's that good.



It's officially Friday now and along with everybody else, she's constantly poking out of her hide looking for the supper that won't show up until late tonight.

If she's had mouth rot her whole life, since she's looked this way since I got her, wouldn't she not want to eat like a hog?