So, one college class and "several" years being a lab tech? Although I respect everyone's right to respectively express their opinions, where is the work you have done or published in herpetology, or ball pythons, specifically? And isn't quicksand a bit of an extreme analogy for a basic understanding of what you get when you breed snake "w" to snake "z"? My undergraduate degree was in exotic preveterinary medicine, I spent six years working in clinics, and I have owned snakes for 26 years. Where do I stand on your scale? Show a little respect for the time and effort Judy has spent learning and compiling the information that she shares with us regularly.