well i went ahead and ordered the 1860/1960 4 tub rack with belly heat along with some reptile basics hides and a herpstat one i also picked up 4 tubs from target and will most likely pick up 4-8 more for quick swap cleanings and just to have some extras on hand if needed i figure its better to get them for 7.99 now than pay more later. thanks for the help it is appreciated