black bp combos

[RoseyReps]

Am I mistaken or did I read that there is a black pastel line that was line bred for no duck-billing? I thought I saw that in a tthread about black pastels on here. If that is the case, then duck billing could be avoided via specific breeding. Though I'm not sure that the duck billing issue is linked to the kinking / clefting etc deformation.

The suma is hot, I hope to have some mahogany in my collection one day (well in the future lol)

[WingedWolfPsion]

Yeah, are you really sure that wasn't just an incubation issue? With kinking, facial deformities, and eye deformities, it sounds the same as what you see with incubation temperature problems.

I've personally only ever heard of duckbilling occurring with the super cinnies/black pastels on a regular basis, and from looking at it, I can't really see what the issue is. It doesn't look like it causes the snake issues, and it's kind of cute.

The thread there mentions it happens more often, though. But even there in a thread on issues with morphs, you have someone who thinks womas don't wobble, and we know that they do.

[jjmitchell]

Yeah, are you really sure that wasn't just an incubation issue? With kinking, facial deformities, and eye deformities, it sounds the same as what you see with incubation temperature problems.

I've personally only ever heard of duckbilling occurring with the super cinnies/black pastels on a regular basis, and from looking at it, I can't really see what the issue is. It doesn't look like it causes the snake issues, and it's kind of cute.

The thread there mentions it happens more often, though. But even there in a thread on issues with morphs, you have someone who thinks womas don't wobble, and we know that they do.

I agree, I woudnt hesitate to breed super blacks....

As far as people thinking womas dont wobble, several people will argue about champagne wobbling also...Really cracks me up when people tell me they dont want my spider combos because of wobble, but they go bragging about their champagne stuff

[PsychD_Student]

Yeah, Super cinnys are brown, super black pastels are black, and the black pastel x cinnys are in between. I would think the darkest BP one could get would be a black axanthic super black pastel BP. But, of course, those don't exist yet and probably wont for at least a few years