herptstat 2 question

[Gpoop]

From my understanding of the herpstat 2 I should be able to run flexwatt and a radiant heat panel off the same herpstat, correct? Also It has 2 separate probes?

[Kaorte]

correct!

[kitedemon]

Yes that is spot on. FYI rhp do not effect ambient air temps. Just thought I'd mention that in case


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[Kaorte]

Yes that is spot on. FYI rhp do not effect ambient air temps. Just thought I'd mention that in case


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Really? Mine does..

[eatgoodfood]

I thought that was the point of a RHP?

[The Serpent Merchant]

Radiant heat panels do not directly raise the temperature of the air inside a cage, rather they heat up surfaces directly below them which in turn will increase the temperature of the air a few degrees.

[Kaorte]

Radiant heat panels do not directly raise the temperature of the air inside a cage, rather they heat up surfaces directly below them which in turn will increase the temperature of the air a few degrees.

Mine heats up the air more than "a few degrees". So doesn't this mean that the RHP does increase air temps? Even if it isn't "directly" like you say.


You guys are treating air as if it doesn't have mass. Saying that an RHP doesn't directly heat up the air around it is FALSE. While it may not bring the temp of the air up a ton, it does in fact heat the air as well as surfaces below it.

[kitedemon]

Let me guess you put the thermometer under the panel? To measure the air temp hold it off to the side so it is not directly under the panel then turn it off and measure the difference in 15 min. The difference is from the RHP. It heats objects not air. Much like a UTH it does not in a significant way effect air temps just surface temps.

"RHP's are similar to Ceramic Heat Emitters (CHE) - they both project IR heat into the cage. Unlike CHE's that get very, very hot on their surface, these RHP's maintain temperatures safe to use inside the cage. This Infrared Heat tends to heat objects more than the air, much like the natural sunlight outdoors. This type of heat mimics real sunlight both in the direction it comes from and its penetration into the muscle tissue. IR heat has been shown to have a therapeutic effect on sick and injured animals as well. Your reptiles will spend less time basking and receive a much greater benefit from it. The RHP has been the heat of choice for the bird community for years due to these benefits. We at Reptile Basics Inc want to see the RHP gain this popularity in the reptile field!"
Reptile Basics FAQ

Royal pythons don't generally bask. It is a true radient heat source like a UTH is a conductive source either heating air significantly my RHP only heats the air a few degrees much like the UTH does. For thoes who don't remember grade 10 physics...
http://www.wisc-online.com/Objects/V...aspx?ID=sce304

To effect ambient air temps significantly you need a convection source like a light bulb or enclosed heating element.

I only mention the RHP as many try to use them to heat air and discover they behave much like a UTH does. A RHP replaces a UTH.

[Kaorte]

That makes more sense I suppose. I don't expect my RHP to heat the air in the entire enclosure, but it does make a pretty toasty spot, and it isn't just the surfaces that gets hot.

I read the RBI FAQ as well and it does say that it will increase the air temp, but not as much as the surface.

Physics are confusing.

I'm going to try with the thermometer when I get home.

[The Serpent Merchant]

One thing that many people don't account for is high humidity. Humidity (and water in general) moves heat around. (that's why people watercool high performance computers and your car has a radiator) so in a reptile cage with 60+ % humidity it very well could feel warmer (air temp wise) and potentially could be effected by a radiant heat panel more.